Confused about Numina's Convalescence Regen/Recovery Proc
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Posted on: 2011-01-16 22:48 in The Market and Inventions
Just like the in-game description shows, "Adds a 20.0% bonus to regeneration rate and a 10.0% bonus to endurance recovery rate for 120 seconds." This applies to you, not pets -- but a proc like this is wasted in a click-type power like O2 Boost, because it will only check to "fire off" whenever you use the power.
Most people elect to put that (and the other related procs from the Miracle and Regenerative Tissue sets) IO into the Fitness pool "Health" power, as then it will try to activate every 10 seconds continuously.
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I was assuming it would apply to the power's target. So, I put it on a targeted heal so I could apply the effect to other players.
Anyway, it's not affecting the targets (using it on a henchman was just a way to test that), and it's not affecting me either. It just plain isn't affecting anyone.
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No, it does not affect the targets -- the proc's 'target' is YOU.|
Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
I was assuming it would apply to the power's target. So, I put it on a targeted heal so I could apply the effect to other players.
Anyway, it's not affecting the targets (using it on a henchman was just a way to test that), and it's not affecting me either. It just plain isn't affecting anyone. |
As far as its effect, have you actually checked your Combat Statistics window to verify? You will see "Numina's Convalescence: Regeration/Recovery" under your Regeration Rate and Recovery Rate headings (both of which can be found under the "Base" category of your Combat Stats).
The proc works perfectly as designed -- I'm looking at one of my many toons with this slotted (as I mentioned, into Health) right now, and I see the effects.
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Please tell us how you are checking that. My procs have been working perfectly.|
Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
and it's not affecting me either. It just plain isn't affecting anyone.
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oops, you said by checking Combat Attributes. That's weird. Mine are working fine. Did you check in the 120 seconds after using the power?
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When you use O2 Boost with the Proc in it, for the next 120 seconds the effects should show up in the Combat Attributes like this: |
Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
I was assuming it would apply to the power's target. So, I put it on a targeted heal so I could apply the effect to other players.
Anyway, it's not affecting the targets (using it on a henchman was just a way to test that), and it's not affecting me either. It just plain isn't affecting anyone. |
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1 hp/second? Wow, it does a lot less than I thought it did.
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Remember that that's based on max HP, so it will scale based on AT and level. A level 50 tank will get 3.25 hp/sec with no bonus HP. Other ATs and lower levels will get less.
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Oh. Now I see it. I'm not really good at taking screenshots, but yeah I can see it where you said it would be. |
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
When you use O2 Boost with the Proc in it, for the next 120 seconds the effects should show up in the Combat Attributes like this:
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Or maybe you will. Unless you're consistently using O2 Boost at least once per 120 seconds, you're not getting your moneys worth from the IO. Also, it doesn't really make sense (to me) to have it in a power that costs END anyway. You're paying END to boost your recovery. Finally, after a fight ends and you're down HP and END, are you going to remember to zap someone with O2 Boost to keep your regen and recovery up?
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Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
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Numina's Convalescence Unique is NOT a 'Proc', it is PERMANENT if placed in Health, and if placed in a click power it is active for 120 seconds after the power is activated, on the caster only.
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Even with high HP it does less than what it is worth. Hence the reason I only buy the IO to sell it at a higher price. It just doesn't seem worth it to me.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
Remember that that's based on max HP, so it will scale based on AT and level. A level 50 tank will get 3.25 hp/sec with no bonus HP. Other ATs and lower levels will get less.
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That is debatable, but player consensus calls it a Proc. Mechanically, it functions more like other Special IOs that are definitely Procs than it does like Special IOs that are definitely not Procs and act just like single item Global Sets.|
Originally Posted by Weatherwoman
Numina's Convalescence Unique is NOT a 'Proc', it is PERMANENT if placed in Health, and if placed in a click power it is active for 120 seconds after the power is activated, on the caster only.
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Think of it this way, it has a 'chance' to 'go off' when a power is activated, only, it's 'chance' is 100%.
That is unlike 'Global' Special IOs which are always on whether the power is activated or not or even greyed out.
Like Procs, Numina's and other 'Proc120s' never shut off through exemplaring, unlike Global IOs. Like Procs, Numina's must be in a power thats 'on' for it to 'work.'
That's why they're called Procs.
See the discussion of terminology here: paragonwiki.com/wiki/Ios#Special_IOs_from_Sets
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I wouldn't focus on the regen rate unless you were a regen associated toon like Regeneration or Willpower.
The +recovery is where the money's at. Much when it's stacked with other IO bonused percentages to recov, and with a miracle combination.
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Interestingly, those powersets are where I don't even bother with regen bonuses. If I already have 600%, another 10 won't be noticeable.|
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I wouldn't focus on the regen rate unless you were a regen associated toon like Regeneration or Willpower.
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I only build for regen on a tank (to capitalize on the high hit points) who's already pretty tough due to other reasons (resistance or defense).
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Yeah. It's for a /Storm build, so the extra recovery is really worth it.
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I agree that a respec would still be desireable, but I think I'll be ok waiting for the next COX update and using a freespec. Right now, pretty much the only time I ever find myself needing the extra recovery is when I'm firing off a lot of heals. The toon is a MM, so I use the heal power a lot even in single player.
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
Or maybe you will. Unless you're consistently using O2 Boost at least once per 120 seconds, you're not getting your moneys worth from the IO. Also, it doesn't really make sense (to me) to have it in a power that costs END anyway. You're paying END to boost your recovery. Finally, after a fight ends and you're down HP and END, are you going to remember to zap someone with O2 Boost to keep your regen and recovery up?
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Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA
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I'm playing a Mercs/Storm MM, and I put the Numina's Convalescence Regen/Recovery proc on my O2 Boost power, but it isn't doing anything at all.
If I use it to heal a henchman, and then go into the henchman's Combat Attributes screen, it doesn't show that he's getting any boost at all to his regeneration or recovery. Neither one. Looking in my Combat Attributes, I'm not getting a bonus either. The proc is having absolutely no effect on anything at all. Can someone help me understand what is going on? I'm assuming I'll need a respec soon.