Dark Armor: Death Shroud + Cloak of Fear
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Dechs Kaison,
Posted on: 2011-01-16 22:18 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
A. Your damage aura will end up contributing as much to your overall dps as your main attack. Those small orange numbers add up when you're surrounded by a mob. Once you get Death Shroud you can confirm this using herostats.
B. If I recall correctly the fear from CoF can be broken every 5 seconds by dmg, so it should still have a reasonable effect.
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procs in an aura have a chance to go off every 10s. Up to you whether that's enough, or maybe there's a spot that'd get more use from the slot.
Procs in cloak of fear is a terrible idea... if only because you need those slots to actually make cloak of fear worthwhile to use, being that it has high end cost, low accuracy, low fear duration compared to tick rate (every 5 seconds), and you might want to buff that to-hit debuff too..
If I'm not wrong, death shroud will break the fear effect every tick, which is every 2 seconds. So yes, bad idea to run both together.
EDIT: so I'm wrong.. still, it's going to let the enemy have an attack every 5 secs
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A feared target can be allowed one action every five seconds, if he has been damaged in that five seconds. Whether that target takes one hit or twenty in that five seconds, he will only make one action.
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Originally Posted by Signpost
If I'm not wrong, death shroud will break the fear effect every tick, which is every 2 seconds. So yes, bad idea to run both together.
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Originally Posted by Signpost
Procs in cloak of fear is a terrible idea... if only because you need those slots to actually make cloak of fear worthwhile to use, being that it has high end cost, low accuracy, low fear duration compared to tick rate (every 5 seconds), and you might want to buff that to-hit debuff too..
If I'm not wrong, death shroud will break the fear effect every tick, which is every 2 seconds. So yes, bad idea to run both together. |
Let me add to Dechs saying invariably by the time I slot out my character (I start putting in sets at 32) I usually have accuracy bonuses out the wazoo. Your mileage may vary of course. Once at 50 Im having a hard time justifying any alpha slot on my brutes, scrappers and tanks thats not Cardiac....which once thats in place makes endurance issues a thing of the past.
So I dont worry about Acc and End Redux as much as some. Currently I have CoF 6 slotted with Siphon Insight (for the -to hit and S/L def) and the glimpse of the abyss proc. Im not unhappy.
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Just curious, do you have both Death Shroud and CoF on, and what is your passive end consumption with Cardiac?
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Originally Posted by Frogfather
Let me add to Dechs saying invariably by the time I slot out my character (I start putting in sets at 32) I usually have accuracy bonuses out the wazoo. Your mileage may vary of course. Once at 50 Im having a hard time justifying any alpha slot on my brutes, scrappers and tanks thats not Cardiac....which once thats in place makes endurance issues a thing of the past.
So I dont worry about Acc and End Redux as much as some. Currently I have CoF 6 slotted with Siphon Insight (for the -to hit and S/L def) and the glimpse of the abyss proc. Im not unhappy. |
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Originally Posted by Signpost
Just curious, do you have both Death Shroud and CoF on, and what is your passive end consumption with Cardiac?
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Yes I run both and Im fine with it. Let me check back on the numbers when I get home in 4 hours or so.
Kinda hard to check the game from work...if it was I probably would be quickly unemployed and then couldnt afford the game, but then Id be employable again and probably could get a job, but then Id check the game from work....so its a good thing.
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you have it 7-slotted? o.O
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Originally Posted by Frogfather
Currently I have CoF 6 slotted with Siphon Insight (for the -to hit and S/L def) and the glimpse of the abyss proc. Im not unhappy.
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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
you have it 7-slotted? o.O
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Oh the difference a comma makes
....to make more legible....I have CoF 6 slotted, 5 slots of Siphon Insight (for the -to hit and S/L def) and the glimpse of the abyss proc.
As to the question of passive endurance consumption, with 9 toggles Im sitting at 1.55 end a sec, and a recovery of 3.3 a sec.
Like I said, Endurance issues really are a thing of the past. So I put procs in Death Shroud and Cloak of Fear. I do wish I didnt want the S/L defense of Siphon Insight so I could put another proc in there
I'm playing with the build of my Dark Armor Brute. Currently I'm using Cloak of Fear and not Death Shroud: I'm quite happy with the Fear effect and how it reduces incoming damage. I've avoided Oppressive Gloom because I don't want enemies wandering out of my PBAoE effects (who needs a pocket Fusionette?)
I've heard that Death Shroud, once slotted, is a great increase in damage, but I'm curious how it interacts with the Fear - is the Fear effect still useful or does the regular ticking of Death Shroud make CoF little more than a -To-hit?
Similarly, I'm pondering dropping damage procs into Cloak of Fear - Is this a terrible idea?
I'd love to know before I spend a respec and drop all my inf on various sets.