Night Widow build for review & critique

Jon_C · 12-29-2010 09:08 AM

Okay, I've cooked up what I think is this kick-*** lil' Night Widow and thanks to the latest Titan Sentinal, I'm able to easily export the build to Mids. So... what I'd like is some feedback from the peanut gallery on her. (Yes, I know I probably have too much in Maneuvers... but it does give me a home for a full set of LotGs <G>)

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Widow Morgana: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Night Widow Training
Secondary Power Set: Widow Teamwork
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Teleportation

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Poison Dart

(A) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(3) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(5) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(7) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50

Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 44
(7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(9) Serendipity - Defense: Level 35
(9) Serendipity - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(11) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 40
(11) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 40

Level 2: Strike

(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(13) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 44
(13) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(17) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 44

Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
(19) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 33
(21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(21) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 37

Level 6: Combat Jumping

(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%): Level 50
(23) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth: Level 50

Level 8: Build Up

(A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge: Level 50
(23) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 44
(25) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff: Level 42
(25) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 34
(27) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 43
(27) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 10: Indomitable Will

(A) Resist Damage IO: Level 50

Level 12: Lunge

(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(29) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 45
(29) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 44
(31) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 46
(31) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(31) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 43

Level 14: Super Jump

(A) Jumping IO: Level 35

Level 16: Spin

(A) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(33) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(34) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(34) Multi Strike - Damage/Recharge: Level 50

Level 18: Slash

(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(34) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(37) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 46

Level 20: Mask Presence

(A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50

Level 22: Mental Training

(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50

Level 24: Foresight

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 50
(39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(39) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
(39) Resist Damage IO: Level 50

Level 26: Eviscerate

(A) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(40) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(42) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(42) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance: Level 50

Level 28: Placate

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 30: Mind Link

(A) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 45
(42) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 25
(43) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge: Level 33
(43) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
(45) Serendipity - Defense/Recharge: Level 36

Level 32: Tactical Training: Leadership

(A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge: Level 42
(45) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(45) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 43
(46) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 42
(46) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 35: Recall Friend

(A) Range IO: Level 50

Level 38: Elude

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 41: Tactical Training: Assault

(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 35

Level 44: Psychic Scream

(A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(48) Damage Increase

Level 47: Smoke Grenade

(A) Recharge Reduction

Level 49: Tactical Training: Vengeance

(A) Empty

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Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50

Level 2: Rest

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 1: Conditioning
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift

(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Jumping

Level 2: Health

(A) Miracle - Heal: Level 40
(48) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
(48) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
(50) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
(50) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
(50) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50

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Eislor · 12-29-2010 06:05 PM

I made a few changes, more recharge (so Mind Link is perma), more HP (more HP offset the minor lose in regen), more End and more recovery, Psychic Scream is now fully slotted, and more importantly, capped defenses.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.91
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Widow Morgana: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Night Widow Training
Secondary Power Set: Widow Teamwork
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Teleportation

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Poison Dart -- Apoc-Acc/Rchg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(7), S'dpty-Def(9), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GftotA-Def(11), GftotA-Run+(11)
Level 2: Strike -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(13), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15)
Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), LkGmblr-Def(21), LkGmblr-Rchg+(21)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- Winter-ResSlow(A), ULeap-Stlth(23), LkGmblr-Rchg+(25)
Level 8: Build Up -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(23), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(25), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(17)
Level 12: Lunge -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(29), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(29), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Spin -- Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(34), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 18: Slash -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 20: Mask Presence -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 22: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
Level 24: Foresight -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31)
Level 26: Eviscerate -- C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(40), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(40), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 28: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Mind Link -- AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(42), GftotA-Def/Rchg(43), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(43), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(45)
Level 32: Tactical Training: Leadership -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(37), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(37), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTgt-ToHit(39), EndRdx-I(45)
Level 35: Recall Friend -- Range-I(A)
Level 38: Elude -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Psychic Scream -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(46), Posi-Dmg/Rng(46), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Posi-Dam%(48)
Level 47: Smoke Grenade -- RechRdx(A)
Level 49: Tactical Training: Vengeance -- Empty(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(17), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(19), Mrcl-Rcvry+(48), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(48), Numna-Heal(50)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(50), EndMod-I(50)
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Jon_C · 12-30-2010 03:07 PM

Hmm... interesting. One thing that jumps out for starts is there's more slots than I'd've put into Psychic Scream myself - I rarely use it as any mob that's far enough away to warrant shooting at is basically a Poison Dart target, and Psychic Scream is used only if they survive the Dart. If there's more than one target at range, I just jump in and slice then up. The last three powers (PS, Smoke Grenade & Veng) were basically me just filling the toon up as I already had the powers I wanted in prior to lvl 41. And no, I don't remember why I put that 2nd slot in PS to begin with...

All in all, food for thought.

tanstaafl · 12-31-2010 06:28 PM

One thing I noticed, is the stealth proc in combat jumping. It can fit into sprint and save a slot.

I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.

Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.

So sad to be ending ):

Wiccania · 12-31-2010 08:52 PM

Isn't the Stealth proc wasted since no stealth powers stack with Mask Presence?

EricHough · 01-02-2011 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiccania

Isn't the Stealth proc wasted since no stealth powers stack with Mask Presence?

No, the stealth proc stacks just fine with mask presence, I have one in my nightwidow (an unbounded leap: stealth in sprint) and her PVE stealth is at 70 feet when sprint and mask presence are both running.

The stealth POWER (from the concealment pool) will not stack with mask presence, as they are basically the same power. I don't know about super speeds stealth but I know it stacks with the stealth power and with cloaking device from the blaster devices set, so I assume that super speed would stack its stealth with mask presence as well.

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Schismatrix · 01-02-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricHough

No, the stealth proc stacks just fine with mask presence, I have one in my nightwidow (an unbounded leap: stealth in sprint) and her PVE stealth is at 70 feet when sprint and mask presence are both running.

The stealth POWER (from the concealment pool) will not stack with mask presence, as they are basically the same power. I don't know about super speeds stealth but I know it stacks with the stealth power and with cloaking device from the blaster devices set, so I assume that super speed would stack its stealth with mask presence as well.

Yep, the stealth proc stacks with all stealth powers.

My Night Widow uses a mix of melee (2 ST, 2 PBAoE) and ranged (1 ST, 2 AoE) attacks with an average of about 67% positional defenses (68% melee, 69% ranged, 65% AoE). Typed defenses are mostly in the 40s for the most part. There is usually a second or so gap where her positional defenses are around 51% (52% melee, 53% ranged, 49% AoE) while Mind Link is down. Theoretically Mids' shows second and a half overlap on Mind Link, but i think the animation time throws it off.

Edit- This is the build i currently have on live. i'm planning to drop Placate, reassign the two slots added to it and take Teleport instead. Placate doesn't really add enough to my dps unless i save it for PBAoE powers:
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Nyx Thorn: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Widow
Primary Power Set: Night Widow Training
Secondary Power Set: Widow Teamwork
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Teleportation

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Poison Dart -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7)
Level 1: Combat Training: Defensive -- LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-Def(7), LkGmblr-Rchg+(9)
Level 2: Strike -- Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/Dmg(11), Mako-Dam%(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 4: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(15), LkGmblr-Rchg+(15), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 6: Dart Burst -- Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(A), Posi-Dam%(17), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), Posi-Dmg/Rng(19), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(21), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(21)
Level 8: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(23), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(25)
Level 12: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(A), Winter-ResSlow(25), Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng(27)
Level 16: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Slash -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mako-Dam%(29), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(31)
Level 20: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(A), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(33), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit(33), GSFC-Build%(34)
Level 22: Foresight -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-Def(34), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(34), LkGmblr-Rchg+(36)
Level 24: Mind Link -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(36), LkGmblr-Rchg+(36), HO:Membr(37)
Level 26: Eviscerate -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(37), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Sciroc-Dam%(39), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(39)
Level 28: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Mask Presence -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def(40), GftotA-Run+(40)
Level 32: Psychic Scream -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Dmg/Rng(40), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 35: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 38: Smoke Grenade -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb/Rchg(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(45), DarkWD-Rchg/EndRdx(45), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(45)
Level 41: Tactical Training: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 44: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A), Zephyr-ResKB(46), Zephyr-Travel(46)
Level 47: Spin -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Dam%(48), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(48), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(48), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Recall Friend -- Range-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(46)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(50)
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