Broadsword/Shield Defense


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I haven't updated my Broadsword/Shield Defense character up until just now. I think the build is kind of a mess and would like some help to sort things out if you guys don't mind. Couple of things right off the bat:

  1. I'm not sure if it is possible with an Uncommon Spiritual boost, but I'd like to go for Head Splitter > Hack > Disembowel > Hack as my single target DPS chain and Whirling Sword > Hack > Slice > Hack as my AoE chain. What do you folks think?
  2. I don't think I am getting capped Defense Debuff Resistance with Active Defense double stacking. What am I doing wrong?
  3. I'm kind of worried about my Endurance Recovery, as in if it will be enough for the single target and AoE chains. Conserve Power will be nice, but I don't think will be a big help the way it is.


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Shadow - Knight: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack
  • (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
  • (5) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
  • (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (7) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (7) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 1: Deflection
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (9) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (29) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge
  • (29) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (31) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
  • (37) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
Level 2: Slice
  • (A) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (9) Touch of Lady Grey - Recharge/Endurance
  • (25) Eradication - Damage
  • (25) Eradication - Damage/Recharge
  • (27) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (27) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 4: True Grit
  • (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
  • (17) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
  • (17) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Panacea - Heal
  • (50) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  • (50) Resist Damage IO
Level 6: Battle Agility
  • (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (19) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Shield Wall - Defense
Level 8: Build Up
  • (A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff
  • (13) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
Level 10: Active Defense
  • (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
  • (11) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
  • (11) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
Level 12: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (13) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (15) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Boxing
  • (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun
  • (21) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge
  • (39) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
  • (39) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (50) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun
Level 16: Against All Odds
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 18: Whirling Sword
  • (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (40) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (42) Touch of Lady Grey - Recharge/Endurance
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting
  • (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (21) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge
  • (23) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
Level 22: Tough
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (45) Aegis - Resistance
Level 24: Weave
  • (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
  • (45) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
  • (46) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 26: Disembowel
  • (A) Hecatomb - Damage
  • (42) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (43) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (43) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 28: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (46) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (46) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge
  • (48) Shield Wall - Defense
Level 30: Maneuvers
  • (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
  • (31) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 32: Head Splitter
  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (33) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (34) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 35: Shield Charge
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 38: One with the Shield
  • (A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
  • (45) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
Level 41: Parry
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 44: Grant Cover
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 47: Conserve Power
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 49: Physical Perfection
  • (A) Endurance Modification IO
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Accuracy IO
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (3) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (15) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
  • (23) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
  • (48) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End



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Thanks in advance!


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Posted

I think making the eye on the sword red would look better...







Can't open the build as of yet so no help there


 

Posted

Cripes. Over 130 views and nobody wants to give some input? Is my build that much of a mess?


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OK, OK, OK.

1. For HS>Hack>Dis>Hack, with spiritual uncommon, you should have 66.25%+22% = 88.25% before ED in Hack, 70+(0.9*(88.25-70))=86.425% after Ed, plus your 150% global is 236.425% recharge, allowing it to recharge in 2.378 seconds, giving you about a 0.4 second gap, and Mids' unslotted average damage of 68 DPS. That looks like your best option despite the gap. Your gap in your AoE chain is even shorter, not much more than a tenth of a second. Go for it, I say.

2. Failing to push hard against the ED cap? I have two level 53 Membranes and a level 53 Enzyme in my Active Defense. It's probably not working as intended, though - the game does NOT apply the ED cap to the DDR, at least for Active Defense, at least as of a week or two ago when I checked it. I can't remember if it does for Deflection. I'm again thinking it isn't. So I can't really suggest super-saturating your defense enhancement like I have, since it will probably go away and is very expensive. Honestly, I wasn't even aware of the bug (assuming it is one) when I did it. Found out after the fact when I started questioning why my DDR was so high. Mids' USED to fail to apply the ED cap, and I think at the time, the game DID apply the ED cap. Now the situation looks reversed. So you'll probably have a little over the 89% shown in Mids', but probably not 95% since you aren't losing much to ED anyway.

3. Heading to bed and too tired for an endurance calculation, but it looks pretty good to me. I shoot for about 3 EPS net recovery before the attack chain as my first pass on a build before I start calculating, and that's roughly where you're at. With Conserve Power, your massive recharge and the Spiritual boost, decent endurance reduction in your attacks, I just can't imagine you having an endurance problem outside of massive drains. In fact, you might end up being able to replace one or two endurance reductions in the attacks with some proc damage, maybe some Achilles' Heels if you want to take on hard targets. I'd START with the endurance reduction though, and just see how it goes. Though aren't most procs pretty cheap? As long as we're burning influence, I'd frankly start with the procs and then just replace them one at a time with endurance reduction if I found I had a problem. Bet you don't have a problem, but if I'm wrong, it's a relatively cheap mistake to fix.

Edit: Any other build comments will have to wait. Sleepy!


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Ohhh, thank you very much Werner!

Right on! I'm glad I'll be able to do a decent chain there. At least, I think it's decent! I'm betting that 0.4 second gap will be eliminated with the Very Rare or even just a Rare Spiritual boost.

Wait a minute, do level 53 Hami-O's have different Enhancement numbers than 50's? Ah ha, so the numbers in Mids are not being reflected correctly. Well hell, 95% is good enough for me! I will switch out two of the Membranes for Enzymes then. If they change how Hami-O's work in Active Defense in a future patch, it won't be so bad for me. Hami-O's are very much within my grasp if I need to buy them.

I'll start with the Endurance Reduction since I can just drop a proc onto it.


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Okay.....

Seriously?

You slot Boxing with the Stun Purple set, and don't slot Parry at all?

Seriously?!



My advice: Yank those Amazements, quit chasing recharge with sets, and slot Parry with at least five slots. I'd frankenslot the 7.5, a Kismet 6, and three Mako's.

Then get recharge back with the Alpha.

The toon will be MUCH more durable that way. Remember kids, 45 percent isn't REALLY a cap at all, and the new content is demanding more and more. BS/sd is one of the few builds able to reach those lofty pinnacles by itself, why cripple it?


 

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I thought about slotting up Parry, but I guess I didn't think hard enough! No duh the end-game content is going to require more than just 45% bAss_ackwards! So I'll slot up Parry for those oh sh**! moments. What kind of Defense should I be looking for if I am Level Shifted and fighting 54s? Would one application of Parry be enough? I guess they have debuffs for us and buffs for themselves too. Two Parry applications and then attack chain? Blargh.

You think I should have a Kismet in Parry? This kind of Accuracy won't be enough for those 54s? Yeesh.


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Doesn't the Kismet unique have to be slotted into a passive/toggle to make full use of it so it can be 'always on'? If you put it in Parry, it will only start being active after using Parry once, which might not help on the initial hit. Wouldn't it be better putting the slot it uses into one of the defense toggles or Combat Jumping (if you have it)?


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Posted

I don't know too much about Broad Sword but

You're not at the cap to any position

Slot parry like your life depends on it

Other than that looks good


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The 0.4-second gap won't be eliminated with the very rare, only slightly reduced.

Yeah, level 53 Hamios boost you 23% (Membranes) or 38.3% (Enzymes).

I'd only replace one Membrane in Active Defense with an Enzyme, if any. You still need the others for recharge to keep that sucker double-stacked.

I'm not sure I'd bother with Parry until we know more about the incarnate content. No, that's not true. I'd bother with Parry, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable raising that to the level of recommendation until we know more about the incarnate content. Still, if you feel the same way (overly cautious and wanting to make sure you can handle whatever they throw at you), then yeah, slot yourself some Parry, and Boxing seems like the most obvious place to raid for slots. You'll probably then have a small gap in your Active Defense stack, at least until you get the very rare boost. Also a very slightly larger gap in your chains, but probably not so much that you'd want some other chain (except when you're spamming Parry).

There's nothing special about level 54s as far as defense goes. For defense, I'd target either 59% (to floor tip mission devouring earth and Battle Maiden) or 70% (to floor pets). Since that's one unenhanced Parry or two unenhanced Parries over the soft cap, you should be fine slotting Parry as an attack. On the other hand, since you won't normally be using it as an attack, you could do something like a couple Nucleolus, a Mako's quad, the Luck of the Gambler, and an Enzyme. That's what I did on my Katana/Dark. That saves a slot over a full set and will let you put up ridiculously high defense numbers if for some reason it should be necessary. Like maybe you could tank Recluse without purples by beating on one of the towers with Parry. OK, you'd probably need big oranges and serious team support too. Or skip the Enzyme and save two slots, which might be the better overall choice.

I'd definitely add a Kismet unique, but I'd put it in a toggle or passive.

I'd want a lot more regeneration or Aid Self, but you should normally be fine with greens.

I wouldn't be happy being below 45% defense.

You're one over the cap on 10% regeneration, but it looks like just a side effect of the sets you're slotting, not what you were actually going for.

You'll get twice as much endurance out of a Performance Shifter proc in Physical Perfection, at least on average.

You could consider a stealth IO in one of the prestige sprints just so that you have some stealth capability.

Looks pretty good to me otherwise. I haven't played with and haven't seen many Broad Sword/Shield builds, so I'm not really sure what good numbers are just looking at it. But it seems to hit the basics pretty well - soft cap (sorta), defense debuff resistance, good chain, sustainable endurance, AoE capability, good hit points, slotted Tough, bunny hopping, accuracy (with the Kismet added).


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Well seeing as were all here mind taking a look at my build?

Targeting drone is there for concept I really want to keep him to.

Do I need the Regenerate Tissue Unique? Is there any way I can fit a Kesment 6 into this build? I only have maneuvers for teams I leave it off when solo. Its also there for incarnate content.

Any suggestions on how I can improve my build?

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Valkyrie's Executor: Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Weapon Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg(3), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(5), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(21)
Level 1: Deflection -- S'dpty-Def/Rchg(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(3), S'dpty-EndRdx(5), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), S'dpty-Def(45)
Level 2: Slice -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(7), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(25), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(27)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- S'dpty-EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(9), S'dpty-Def(9), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(15), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(17), Zephyr-ResKB(17)
Level 8: Parry -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mako-Dam%(31)
Level 10: True Grit -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Mrcl-Rcvry+(13), Mrcl-Heal(43), RgnTis-Regen+(48)
Level 12: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Kick -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 20: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(50)
Level 22: Weave -- S'dpty-Def(A), S'dpty-EndRdx(50), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 24: Whirling Sword -- Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Dmg(29), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(31), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 26: Disembowel -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(34), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Mako-Dam%(36)
Level 28: Build Up -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit(40), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(42), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(43), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(43), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 32: Head Splitter -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(37), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(39), Achilles-ResDeb%(39)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(37), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(40), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 38: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 41: Caltrops -- Posi-Dam%(A)
Level 44: Targeting Drone -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(46), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(46), GSFC-ToHit(48)
Level 47: One with the Shield -- ResDam-I(A)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(25)



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opppssss

seems to be all covered though...
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Thanks folks! I've got to be heading out soon so I'll be looking this over tonight when I have time.

This build will probably happen much later. I know for sure it will be after I get Succubus Kali the best I can. Just thought I was due to update the several-Issues-old build for Shadow - Knight.


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