Crazy support, not too bad solo either


CBeet

 

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I want a Controller, I am craving a Controller, but being mostly a Blaster/Brute/Scrapper player it is pretty difficult to get past level 6, which isn't to say I have not already got one past. I have a level 38 Gravity/Forcefield. I'm sure you can see where I went wrong (I've been kicking myself for ages about it, I was so close to choosing Storm which I'm loving on a Mastermind).

I've tried what is pretty much a pure support character. A slow, boring, little-used support character. Now I want a proper Controller, I want to buff, debuff, control, manipulate!.. But I don't know what sets to choose. I've narrowed it down to Electric/Sonic (faster, short-term control powers to keep me clicking and self/ally buffs and debuffs galore), Earth/Thermal (I like the BAMness of Earth and I've also wanted a healy type for the fast paced nature of it, but Therm also comes with tasty debuffs so trumps out Empathy) or Mind/Kinetics (Fast powers! Wham! Zip! Pow! And teams will love me).

To those who've tried these combos, I'd like to know your thoughts on them. To those that know too many numbers like me, I'd like a fresh opinion on how they'd work together. I KNOW it's all down to personal opinion, but I'm still interested in personal accounts and how they do in the 30+ game especially.


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Sometimes all at once.
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earth/anything is my recommendation. i was amazed the first time i played one. stalagmites comes very early. fossilize recharges quick. quicksand is super useful. its all there. and it never felt like i was waiting a few more levels for the powers i really needed. it was pretty smooth. i would say radiation as a secondary. teams love it, and AM gets your controls up faster so u can stack them on bosses. (ive personally found i love my earth/fire dom the most though)


 

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I want a Controller, I am craving a Controller, but being mostly a Blaster/Brute/Scrapper player it is pretty difficult to get past level 6, which isn't to say I have not already got one past. I have a level 38 Gravity/Forcefield. I'm sure you can see where I went wrong (I've been kicking myself for ages about it, I was so close to choosing Storm which I'm loving on a Mastermind).

I've tried what is pretty much a pure support character. A slow, boring, little-used support character. Now I want a proper Controller, I want to buff, debuff, control, manipulate!.. But I don't know what sets to choose. I've narrowed it down to Electric/Sonic (faster, short-term control powers to keep me clicking and self/ally buffs and debuffs galore), Earth/Thermal (I like the BAMness of Earth and I've also wanted a healy type for the fast paced nature of it, but Therm also comes with tasty debuffs so trumps out Empathy) or Mind/Kinetics (Fast powers! Wham! Zip! Pow! And teams will love me).

To those who've tried these combos, I'd like to know your thoughts on them. To those that know too many numbers like me, I'd like a fresh opinion on how they'd work together. I KNOW it's all down to personal opinion, but I'm still interested in personal accounts and how they do in the 30+ game especially.

Out of those the Mind/Kin will solo the best.

Other combos worth a try:
Fire/Cold
Plant/Storm

There are plenty of others but those should be good - the main rule of thumb is use Fire/Plant/Illusion/Mind as a primary (these do good damage) and use a secondary that allows you to self buff and/or debuff the mobs.


L50s: Tanks: Cryofission - Ice/EM - Dr Celsius - Fire/Ice - Saint George - SD/SS | Controllers: Psichosis - Ill/Kin - Major Chaos - Ill/Stm | Scrappers - Neutron Crusader - DM/SR

Currently Levelling: Angelic Blade - BS/WP Scrapper | Seeds of Destruction - Plant/Kin Controller

 

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I want a Controller, I am craving a Controller, but being mostly a Blaster/Brute/Scrapper player it is pretty difficult to get past level 6, which isn't to say I have not already got one past. I have a level 38 Gravity/Forcefield. I'm sure you can see where I went wrong (I've been kicking myself for ages about it, I was so close to choosing Storm which I'm loving on a Mastermind).

I've tried what is pretty much a pure support character. A slow, boring, little-used support character. Now I want a proper Controller, I want to buff, debuff, control, manipulate!.. But I don't know what sets to choose. I've narrowed it down to Electric/Sonic (faster, short-term control powers to keep me clicking and self/ally buffs and debuffs galore), Earth/Thermal (I like the BAMness of Earth and I've also wanted a healy type for the fast paced nature of it, but Therm also comes with tasty debuffs so trumps out Empathy) or Mind/Kinetics (Fast powers! Wham! Zip! Pow! And teams will love me).

To those who've tried these combos, I'd like to know your thoughts on them. To those that know too many numbers like me, I'd like a fresh opinion on how they'd work together. I KNOW it's all down to personal opinion, but I'm still interested in personal accounts and how they do in the 30+ game especially.
I have recommended over and over that folks who are either (a) new to controllers or (b) had trouble leveling up a controller, try an Illusion/Radiation Controller. I know it wasn't one of your choices, but if you have had problems with controllers before and you are used to doing damage, Electric and Earth are going to seem extremely slow to you. Both are very low damage sets. I love Earth Control, but its focus is providing ranged AoE control for larger teams. Electric is more melee, but requires more finesse to keep from faceplanting frequently. Mind gets a good ranged attack chain early, but then slows down in the 30's just when other controllers are picking up their best damage from their pets, and it doesn't have great synergy with Kinetics.

Illusion/Rad is great solo, small teams and good teams. You don't have to wait until the late levels to get the good powers. You can do decent damage while staying safe. If you decide to try it, take a look at my Illusion/Radiation guide, linked in my sig.


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I want a Controller, I am craving a Controller, but being mostly a Blaster/Brute/Scrapper player it is pretty difficult to get past level 6, which isn't to say I have not already got one past. I have a level 38 Gravity/Forcefield. I'm sure you can see where I went wrong (I've been kicking myself for ages about it, I was so close to choosing Storm which I'm loving on a Mastermind).

I've tried what is pretty much a pure support character. A slow, boring, little-used support character. Now I want a proper Controller, I want to buff, debuff, control, manipulate!.. But I don't know what sets to choose. I've narrowed it down to Electric/Sonic (faster, short-term control powers to keep me clicking and self/ally buffs and debuffs galore), Earth/Thermal (I like the BAMness of Earth and I've also wanted a healy type for the fast paced nature of it, but Therm also comes with tasty debuffs so trumps out Empathy) or Mind/Kinetics (Fast powers! Wham! Zip! Pow! And teams will love me).

To those who've tried these combos, I'd like to know your thoughts on them. To those that know too many numbers like me, I'd like a fresh opinion on how they'd work together. I KNOW it's all down to personal opinion, but I'm still interested in personal accounts and how they do in the 30+ game especially.
Out of the sets you mentioned, I think Mind/Kin would be tons of fun. You can get your recharge goin pretty well and get those AoE controls firing off. But have you considered /rad? An earth/rad is an amazing toon. You dont have to worry about buffage at all which can be annoying in a support toon. Earth/Rad gives you great support options, you can floor the defense of an area of mobs from lvl 6 oneward with cages+rad infection. Plus you get -res, -regen, slow, etc. You won't be doing damage in any real amount but your team will love you. You can heal and you get a great rez. An all around great toon. Another option would be the toon I'm trying to put together in mids and then lvl up. A Mind/Rad. If I can get perma Hasten/AM I'll be firing off those ridiculous controls and what I've been giggling about is a combo of enervating field (-resist) and mass confusion. To watch the group of enemies do an even better job of beating each other up while i cackle with glee .


 

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Thanks for your replies!

To the Earth suggestions: I tried Earth before, an Earth/Kin, and I found it fun I just.. I just lost my will to play that character. I'm a weird one, I have to really like the concept more than anything else which is why I was able to narrow it down to the choices in the first post as I had concepts in mind for each which I could run with.

Local Man, I'm neither new to Controllers or the game in general, I've mained Blasters for years and really enjoy that kind of fast paced playstyle where it's more about your tactics than the raw numbers. I like what you said about Electric Control so will go with the Elec/Son, but I will keep Earth/Rad in mind if it doesn't work. The main worry is I've a Rad/Rad Defender sitting pretty in the 30s already. I may also have to make the Mind/Kin if it'd be as silly as I imagine it being.


I am the Blaster, I have filled the role of Tank, Controller and Defender
Sometimes all at once.
Union EU player! Pip pip, tally ho, top hats and tea etc etc