Cable Management (Assembly)


 

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Hey folks,

Happy Holidays!! And I hope all is well.

I am just about done assembling my new COX rig!! On a side note, wow, I can't believe how much of a time sink assembling first computer can be--especially cable management...

Details you might need to know:

1. Case--Cooler Master CM 690
2. PSU--Silverstone strider 750w (80 plus Silver)
3. Mobo--Asus M4a88td-v evo/usb 3
4. GPU--One GTX 460 1 gig.

Two questions regarding "cable management" (I honestly could not get "google" to answer):

1. With one Sata cable can I run both Hard drive and Dvd burner on same line? I know IDE, you should not.

2. On a molex cable line, can I run three 120 mm fans safely. Or should I run two molex cables total (one with one and second with two?).

Thanks in advance. And I hope everyone has a great holiday!!


 

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1. Nope, one device per SATA cable.
2. Yep, that will be fine.


 

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Originally Posted by HwaRang View Post
Hey folks,

Happy Holidays!! And I hope all is well.

I am just about done assembling my new COX rig!! On a side note, wow, I can't believe how much of a time sink assembling first computer can be--especially cable management...

Details you might need to know:

1. Case--Cooler Master CM 690
2. PSU--Silverstone strider 750w (80 plus Silver)
3. Mobo--Asus M4a88td-v evo/usb 3
4. GPU--One GTX 460 1 gig.
1: Nice case. Have one myself.
2: Decent PSU.
3: Not familiar with that particular board.
4: Good choice.

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Two questions regarding "cable management" (I honestly could not get "google" to answer):

1. With one Sata cable can I run both Hard drive and Dvd burner on same line? I know IDE, you should not.
No. Old IDE/ATAPI cables, you could string two devices. SATA is all one device per-cable.

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2. On a molex cable line, can I run three 120 mm fans safely. Or should I run two molex cables total (one with one and second with two?).

Thanks in advance. And I hope everyone has a great holiday!!
As long as you're not stringing other devices on the same power "branch" line, you should be okay.



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Your system sounds nice.

your questions have been answered already.

I find for bundling of wires that nylon cable ties, velcro tape or hugo's tape do the job. I prefer nylon but nylon is a pain to remove if you have to remove things so I have been using velcro tape more.

Assembling the rig is something I really look forward to doing. If anything, time goes by too fast when I make Frankenstein awaken.

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Originally Posted by HwaRang View Post
Hey folks,

Happy Holidays!! And I hope all is well.

I am just about done assembling my new COX rig!! On a side note, wow, I can't believe how much of a time sink assembling first computer can be--especially cable management...

Details you might need to know:

1. Case--Cooler Master CM 690
2. PSU--Silverstone strider 750w (80 plus Silver)
3. Mobo--Asus M4a88td-v evo/usb 3
4. GPU--One GTX 460 1 gig.

Two questions regarding "cable management" (I honestly could not get "google" to answer):

1. With one Sata cable can I run both Hard drive and Dvd burner on same line? I know IDE, you should not.

2. On a molex cable line, can I run three 120 mm fans safely. Or should I run two molex cables total (one with one and second with two?).

Thanks in advance. And I hope everyone has a great holiday!!


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Nice modular power supply. Got good reviews at both JonnyGURU and Hardware Secrets.

The data cables for SATA are per device. That's the reason there are so many SATA ports on motherboards.

Case fans draw very little power relative to just about everything else in the case, even the ones that light up. We are talking less than 10 watts each, more like less than 5 watts each for the unlit kind, less than the average power draw of the hard drives or optical drives that normally used the MOLEX connectors in the past.


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Thanks for replies.

Sorry need clarification...(Noob here) Err...I may have mis-stated something. I asked:

"1. With one Sata cable can I run both Hard drive and Dvd burner on same line? I know IDE, you should not." **Edited** IDE had power issues on same cable line.

Response from generous folks: "Basically, only one per device."

However, I am left wondering about the SATA power cables running from PSU that have 3 attachments per cable with ends looking like this photo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_power_cable.jpg

Not asking about this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CBoQ9QEwAg

So still what everyone is suggesting? Or will a HDD and a DvD on same line be ok (Due to power needs)?

Thanks in advance.


 

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You can run multiple SATA devices off of one power line ... I personally try to limit it to one of any type per line (ie one hard drive and one optical drive per line vs two or more hard drives or optical drives) ... but that's mainly an old habit from when 1x cd drives had massive spin-up power demands (many, many years ago.)
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now I feel old :/


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HwaRang View Post
Thanks for replies.

Sorry need clarification...(Noob here) Err...I may have mis-stated something. I asked:

"1. With one Sata cable can I run both Hard drive and Dvd burner on same line? I know IDE, you should not." **Edited** IDE had power issues on same cable line.

Response from generous folks: "Basically, only one per device."

However, I am left wondering about the SATA power cables running from PSU that have 3 attachments per cable with ends looking like this photo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_power_cable.jpg

Not asking about this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CBoQ9QEwAg

So still what everyone is suggesting? Or will a HDD and a DvD on same line be ok (Due to power needs)?

Thanks in advance.
Ah, people were assuming you meant the SATA data cable which is certainly one device per port. I can't imagine that multiple SATA drives off of the same power line would present a problem assuming you have the connections; drives draw fairly small amounts of power nowadays. The big power hogs in a computer now are the video card and CPU; everything else is peanuts by comparison.


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[QUOTE=HwaRang;3394487]Thanks for replies.

Sorry need clarification...(Noob here) Err...I may have mis-stated something. I asked:

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Ah.

Okay. Pretty much everyone here thought that you were talking the SATA data cables. THOSE are one-to-one.

The power cables, you can string pretty much as many devices as you have connectors for. Granted, if you're running a ton of 10,000 rpm drives you might want to consider a bit of load balancing...just in case. But usually there's exactly zero problem with daisy-chaining them on the power line.



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Again, hard drives use less than 10 watts worse case so sticking three on a single cable is fine.

I had problems with a PATA hard drive and an optical drive sharing the same data cable.

I never had problems with multiple drives on a single cable.


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