It really depends on two factors about the axe ..size of axe head , and lenght of the handle, if either is large you cant hang it from a belt with out tripping over it, having seen re-enactors with sizable war axes they tend to carry in in their hand, or resting over the shoulder much like a rifle is carried. One other option i have seen is hung from a loop over the shoulder so the axe hangs inside of the arm, the handle along the chest and the head around waist height. Last version, axe over the back, shield hung over the arm, but loose.
Best option ..get a Squire ..)
Hmm... Well, I'm looking for a one-handed weapon pretty much exactly like the Legacy Battle Axe, so the handle cant' be that long, and we're talking about a pretty big character here. However, with the axe I have, the head is... Pretty damn big. About as wide from blade to blade as a man is from shoulder to shoulder. Again, we're talking about a huge character here, though, so I guess I could take some measurements. I don't think the handle is much longer than the character's femur, though that's counting from where the head meets the handle, not up to the tips of the double curved blades.
What I had in mind originally was fastening the axe in some sort of loop right where the axe handle meets the axe head, and where I assume the centre of mass would be, as that's right in the centre of the head. Possibly with some kind of strap above the axe to prevent it sliding out. Or, alternately, just tucking the thing into the belt with the handle inside but the blades outside. I wish I had pics to share 
Constantly carrying the axe in hand doesn't sound like an option, though. The character I have in mind is a survivalist of sorts, and would need both hands far too often to constantly have one occupied by a weapon, specifically one too precious to allow to be left behind so easily. A sling over the shoulder sounds interesting, but... Isn't that incredibly awkward? I mean, it's not like your typical 7-foot-long claymore strapped to the back like a backboard is anything BUT awkward, but this just seems like it would get in the way all the time.
Thank you for your help, and for the suggestion to figure out the axe handle's length. I don't think it's TOO long, but I'll have to check in-game.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Interesting question.
Axe holsters generally consist of a cover - often made of leather - which protects the cutting edge (and any stray digits/limbs 
). If the axe is being hung from the belt the head would be at the top with the shaft hanging down. This can obviously constitute a trip hazard, but I'll get to that. If the axe is mounted on the back it can be either head up or head down as that mostly depends on what use it is being put to, and the preference of the person actually using it.
One thing it may be helpful to remember is that people adapt very quickly. For example, someone who is not used to carrying a sword from their belt would find it awkward, off balance, and probably spend a fair amount of time getting tangled up in it and bashing it on things. A person who carries a sword all day every day will barely notice it most of the time as their movements will have adapted to compensate for it's presence. In fact, that person would probably be more aware of their sword being missing.
Obviously the decision is up to you, but I hope that was at least partially helpful.
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That's more or less the description I was looking for. I'm looking at the character now, and according to my MKI Eyeball, the handle - as measured from the where the head ends down to the tip - is slightly longer than the character's upper leg. Hung off some sling from the belt (or above the belt), the handle would drop down to perhaps slightly below the knee. Would that constitute a trip hazard?|
Originally Posted by _Fea_
Axe holsters generally consist of a cover - often made of leather - which protects the cutting edge (and any stray digits/limbs
). If the axe is being hung from the belt the head would be at the top with the shaft hanging down. This can obviously constitute a trip hazard, but I'll get to that. If the axe is mounted on the back it can be either head up or head down as that mostly depends on what use it is being put to, and the preference of the person actually using it. |
The head, though, is bigger than I remembered. Because I'm using a female character with the Legacy Battle Axe, this produces an axe head that's wider blade-to-blade than the character is at the shoulders. That's more or less why I picked it
What I worry about is if it won't be awkward to have a foot of axe blade ahead and behind, potentially cutting into anything (or anyone) you happen to run into. I assume when you talk about axes worn on the belt, you mean more hatchets and tomahawks than what amounts to a truck tyre hub on a stick. With a head this wide, I may need to come up with an alternate mount.You mentioned axes worn on the back, head down. Is that even possible? Won't that just slide out if a person jumped down hard enough? I mean, I guess it could be strapped or clipped in, but that really only works for a belt holster that you can unclip with your hand. How would one hand an axe on his or her back, head down, without it slipping out?
Though, now that you mention it, this does give me an interesting visual. I can picture a large shield hung from the back either from above or from the side, and an axe tucked in behind it either head-up behind the shoulders or head down behind the waist. In either case, the weapon can be drawn by grabbing the handle close to the head mount, drawing it out like that and then sliding the weapon into a grip more towards the back. I've never held an actual axe, myself, but I've held plenty of hammers and I know how easy it is to switch grip like this just on the dead weight of the head.
Hmm... Not a bad idea. Not a bad idea at all. OK, I think I have a loose picture in my head now
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I figure I should include a pic. I didn't want to do so before since I've been posting that pic literally all over the forums, but it might help instead of me explaining it in text. This is Brutticus, and I had to cheat only ever so slightly to get that pic.
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It's worth noting that nearly every MMO exaggerates weapon sizes so players can see them better. Very much so in this case!
Though this is Super heroes, so it's not impossible that it's that size at which point you don't even bother trying to holster it, you carry it in hand by resting it over the shoulder and regret your choice of ridiculously oversized weapon.
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It's worth noting that nearly every MMO exaggerates weapon sizes so players can see them better. Very much so in this case!
Though this is Super heroes, so it's not impossible that it's that size at which point you don't even bother trying to holster it, you carry it in hand by resting it over the shoulder and regret your choice of ridiculously oversized weapon. |
However, in this case I don't view the weapons as oversized, simply because so many of them aren't. I disagreed with BABs vision of what weapon size should be, but he did ensure that our weapons are, for the most part, of realistic scale in relation to the character. Which is why I don't tend to see oversized weapons as exaggerated, but I rather see them as just that big "in reality."
Brutticus was build, almost entirely, around that one huge axe. That was the sum total of her concept - huge savage woman. As such, regardless of how the game treats them, I interpret her weapons as both very large and very heavy, fitting for a woman who is herself very large and very strong. In fact, just the other day I swapped from the very small Targe to the significantly larger Spartan shield.
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I do think I can have those be capable of being holstered, though, and with no alterations to the costume. Here's what I have in mind:
The shield can hook onto the chain at the back and possibly somewhere on the shoulder. The axe can then hook onto the belt with the spike on the head and the the handle can fit into a ring along the chain, sort of like how the cover on a TV remote's battery compartment clips into place. This should actually give me a symmetrical look, as well, with the axe actually largely resting on the butt cheeks with the flat of the blades.
I think I like that setup
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Hmm... Sheathing an axe and shield...
Axe: Large square leather scabbard attached so the axe head goes in first with the handle sticking up behind the head.
Shield: Shields tend to have rings on that arms go into/hands hold onto. A hook or 2 on the back of the scabbard that the shield hangs onto.
Probably the only way I can see a large axe/shield being held without getting in the way.
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Hmm... You're worried that if an axe were anchored to the belt and to the upper back, it could act like a backboard? You have a point there. I think I can come up with theoretical solutions to this one... Possibly. Not really sure on that one.|
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Axe: Large square leather scabbard attached so the axe head goes in first with the handle sticking up behind the head.
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What I do know, though, is that carrying the axe with the handle sticking too far up doesn't appeal to me. To be honest, I actually feel shorter weapons look best when worn on the belt, one way or another. They don't strike me as long enough to be worn on the belt. I mean, don't get me wrong - the Legacy Battle Axe is HUGE. It's just more chunky than it is long, unlike a sword which even when it's big is still long first and foremost. Well, some swords, anyway, but that's getting off-topic.
Either way, though, I think I have a fairly good idea of what that would look like from a distance, which is what my imagination was really lacking. It's so much easier with just a single broadsword
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The problem is you're looking at finding a realistic solution for an unrealistic circumstance. The kind of axe you're talking about could never, reasonably, be used one-handed by a human. It would be slung on the back, or more likely would never be 'holstered' at all.
So, you have a huge man using a huge axe. Sling it where you feel comfortable and don't worry too much about the details. Fea's description is likely as good as anything.
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So, you have a huge man using a huge axe. Sling it where you feel comfortable and don't worry too much about the details. Fea's description is likely as good as anything.
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I'm not really worried about realism. I just have some degree of problem imagining how something like this could work, which becomes problematic when I start writing stories about her. However, you are correct in that I should be more loose in my attempts to visualise. Just having the axe fit under the shield from below, upside down, is probably as close to the best I can get, even if it doesn't necessarily make sense. I think I'll go with that.
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Assassins Creed Brotherhood allows you to carry around heavy weapons permanently once you buy the right sort of holder for them. One of these includes a big axe, which just hangs down in the same place a sword would.
It's not too much of a disconnect. After all, they managed it in medieval and renaisance times.
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Assassins Creed Brotherhood allows you to carry around heavy weapons permanently once you buy the right sort of holder for them. One of these includes a big axe, which just hangs down in the same place a sword would.
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I'm no longer as worried now as I was before, though
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Now, some characters are pretty easy to visualise. If one can, say, shoot fire out of her hands, it's pretty easy to imagine her NOT firing fire out of her hands when she needs to, say, open a door without setting it ablaze. Some characters, however, aren't so easy, namely the one using weapons. I can see why the game treats our weapons as appearing out of null space, both to avoid having to "handle" them and to avoid having to make up ways for them to be attached to the body, but I sincerely doubt almost anyone actually treats their characters as having a metaspace back to store, say, rifles in.
As such, I want to solicit some concept help to aid me in visualising how a particular character would hold her weapons when not in combat. In particular, we're talking about a shield and axe combo. JUST a shield is easy - strap it to the back. JUST an axe is easy, strap that to the back. But the combo together raises some... Interesting questions. With a sword and shield, it's kind of acceptable - you slide the sword in-between the shield strapped to your back and... Well, your back. It still runs the risk of flaying your own skin, but we can overlook that.
But with an axe - and especially the Legacy Battle Axe - the above just doesn't work. The axe head is just too big and bulky to fit between the shield and back without causing damage or getting caught on straps and such, and strapping it to the shield makes it impossible to use JUST the shield without the axe. But then, what options are there?
I've been debating drawing that up as the axe not actually being stored on the back as the game might suggest, but instead carried on the belt via some kind of holster that clips shut to stop the thing just flipping over and sliding out. But can you even carry a large axe on your belt? Is it carried head up or head down? How does that even work?
I don't really need to specifically see a drawn diagram or an actual picture, and I don't specifically need to see that in-game (even though I'd like to), but I just want to know what I'm supposed to be imagining, at least.