AE Power Combos
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AnElfCalledMack,
Posted on: 2010-11-29 12:45 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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Let's not forget that when someone says "softcap" they don't generally mean "softcap to all types/positions". I have seen many people calling themselves "soft-capped" when, in fact, they are really only "soft-capped to smash/lethal". It may seem a minor point, but against some enemies your "soft-cap" can disappear darn fast.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
You and I have very different definitions of "easily."
 No character I've ever made outside of my widow have been able to achieve softcap without build sacrifice. So I've never bothered. |
BIOSPARK :: DARKTHORN :: SKYGUARD :: WILDMAGE
HEATSINK :: FASTHAND :: POWERCELL :: RUNESTAFF
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A Forcefield Defender on SOs with both shields, Dispersion Bubble and Maneuvers each 3-slotted for defense will soft-cap all their teammates.|
Originally Posted by SuperFerret
BTW - Is it possible to Soft Cap without use of IO's? Seeing as how the game is balanced around SO's, that really might not be as big of an issue as assumed.
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An SR Scrapper or Brute with all their toggles, all their passives, Combat Jumping, Weave and Maneuvers, all 3-slotted for defense, will be soft-capped to all positions.
So, yeah. The soft cap is ahieveable on only SOs, but only by specific powersets, and often by taking less-than-optimal powers.
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Tanker SR would softcap on SOs with no pool powers needed to get there. I did the math once, and it ended up being 47% or so just on SOs and the passives and toggles within the set. That's if it follows the same template as Shield Defense. Tanker Shield Defense gives 15% base on it's defense toggles. If SR did the same, plus the passives (which would all be 10% each if it follows the same template as Invuln's passives compared to scrappers and brutes) it would end up softcapping at level 22. Since a tank would have all the necessary powers by level 18, all you'd need to do is hit level 22 and get SO's slotted and you'd be golden. |
Originally Posted by Dispari
Incidentally, Scrapper SR is around 30%. If they gave SR to Tankers it would be super easy to soft-cap. |
A scrapper can already softcap with power choices and SO slotting, a tanker wouldn't even need the extra powers.
But.....Tanker SR would SUCK, because all it has is defense. Shield Defense at least has +HP and some resistance. If you run into something that bypasses defense in some way, your tank will be hitting the dirt damn near instantly. (DE Quartz emanators, I'm looking at YOU)
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
That's why I prefer Resistance only over Defense only, there's always going to be someone who gets are lucky shot in, so being able to take that punch is a good thing.
Actually, if I were to add in a new AT that used an AE powerset combo that isn't already available, it would be Assault/Buff-debuff. It'd have MM debuff values with tanker damage modifiers. It wouldn't be the best at anything, but it would definitely be fun to play. It also wouldn't be over or underpowered, just neutral.
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That actually doesn't sound too bad, melee/range/buff/debuff out of the box, as well as defenses from Power Pools. Give them the Blaster Epic Pools and they'll get a little bit of control.|
Originally Posted by Winza
Actually, if I were to add in a new AT that used an AE powerset combo that isn't already available, it would be Assault/Buff-debuff. It'd have MM debuff values with tanker damage modifiers. It wouldn't be the best at anything, but it would definitely be fun to play. It also wouldn't be over or underpowered, just neutral.
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Of course, this would require a discriminating eye when choosing powersets.
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Actually what you're proposing is an AT that is a Corruptor but has weaker buffs/debuffs and some of their attacks are melee. It's weaker than a Corruptor unless the inherent is pretty cool.
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Originally Posted by Winza
Actually, if I were to add in a new AT that used an AE powerset combo that isn't already available, it would be Assault/Buff-debuff. It'd have MM debuff values with tanker damage modifiers. It wouldn't be the best at anything, but it would definitely be fun to play. It also wouldn't be over or underpowered, just neutral.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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It'd help AE farmers, but it would make us truly able to build ANY character we can imagine (Amazo?).