Wow a bit lost on my dark/dark need some current build advice.
By
Angelofvalor,
Posted on: 2010-11-25 15:31 in Defenders
Dark Miasma, as a defender thrives once you have fearsome stare. You fear the spawn, drop tarpatch on the spawn, and then have your way with the spawn like a marauding pirate. Darkest Night is best used on bosses, not so necessary against minions as they drop so quickly.
Tactic 2, when you have howling twilight, you can neuter a big spawn, even with no downed teammates. Stun the spawn, if you have another attack that stuns it will stack with howling twilight (autohit) and stun the boss as well. HT has a terrific amount of burst -regen to drop bosses.
Most of the time I usually pounce with the dark powers. Prior to level 12 on a dark defender you can pull with darkest night around a corner or obstacle on to your tar patch to minimize incoming damage. In my opinion, darkest night has more fear effect on spawn's AI causing them to run away more frequently. Added spawns can provide hilarious amounts of aggro.
Tactic 3 at higher levels, short of having the fearsome stare/howling twilight alpha busters, you can summon the Dark Servant into spawns for instant tohit debuffing. It's another option, but Fluffy taking the alpha from the Psychic Clockwork King can be preferable to you taking it.
Triumphant Defenders Forever
Psylenz FF/Psi, ArticQuark Storm/Rad, Symon BarSisyphus Bots/psn, Max VanSydow Thugs/Dk, Cyclone Symon Bots/stm, Blue Loki Ice/Cd, Widow 46526
HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.
Quote:
I forgot in the previous rant... hasten is indispensible to my Dark miasma users for tar patch, howling twilight, and fluffy.
|
Originally Posted by Angelofvalor
Ok first question any changes to recall friend? Not sure if I would find hasten more useful or not, any current sample builds I can look at? Seems there has been some changes to dark anyways help me out here please its been ages I do not even remember how to play it!
Thank you. |
Triumphant Defenders Forever
Psylenz FF/Psi, ArticQuark Storm/Rad, Symon BarSisyphus Bots/psn, Max VanSydow Thugs/Dk, Cyclone Symon Bots/stm, Blue Loki Ice/Cd, Widow 46526
HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.
Quote:
I didn't finish it up, but it should give you some ideas. I used the single slot to tell you what type of slotting you should focus on. The power pools and ancillary pool are just ideas. You could change them all up and still be fine. This is an issue 19 build, so no stamina. |
Originally Posted by Angelofvalor
any current sample builds I can look at?
|
Black hole and moonbeam are the powers you definitely want to skip. Petrifying gaze is one of the worst holds in the game, and you have much larger controls available to you, but a hold is a hold so you might still find it useful. Dark pit will only affect minions, so it's not very useful at all. However, if you combine it with another area disorient (such as oppressive gloom from the dark ancillary) it can be useful. Everything else I put in the build is definitely useful in some situations, though torrent and darkstar are the ones that should go first if you want to free up power picks.
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- Heal(A)
Level 1: Dark Blast -- Dmg(A)
Level 2: Gloom -- Dmg(A)
Level 4: Tar Patch -- RechRdx(A)
Level 6: Darkest Night -- ToHitDeb(A)
Level 8: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx(A)
Level 12: Fearsome Stare -- ToHitDeb(A)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Run(A)
Level 16: Tenebrous Tentacles -- Dmg(A)
Level 18: Shadow Fall -- DefBuff(A)
Level 20: Night Fall -- Dmg(A)
Level 22: Assault -- EndRdx(A)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- DefBuff(A)
Level 26: Tactics -- ToHit(A)
Level 28: Torrent -- ToHitDeb(A)
Level 30: Vengeance -- DefBuff(A)
Level 32: Dark Servant -- ToHitDeb(A)
Level 35: Life Drain -- Heal(A)
Level 38: Blackstar -- ToHitDeb(A)
Level 41: Dark Consumption -- RechRdx(A)
Level 44: Dark Embrace -- ResDam(A)
Level 47: Soul Drain -- RechRdx(A)
Level 49: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx(A)
Thank you very much.
Dark Pit stacks with howling twilight, too. I use howling twilight early and often, just like how I vote in Chicago.
Triumphant Defenders Forever
Psylenz FF/Psi, ArticQuark Storm/Rad, Symon BarSisyphus Bots/psn, Max VanSydow Thugs/Dk, Cyclone Symon Bots/stm, Blue Loki Ice/Cd, Widow 46526
HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.
One of my favorite things with Dark/Dark is how effective it can be with just SOs. My opening for almost all spawns is Fearsome Stare>tar patch>tenebrous tentacles>nightfall. By the time I get to nightfall everything in that spawn has so much -acc/fear/slow/etc on it that the team has nothing to worry about whatsoever. The other powers like combing howling twilight with dark pit and oppressive gloom seem like overkill in most situations. I still use them, cuz overkill makes me giggle, but the beauty of dark/dark is how easy it is to use.
Quote:
Oh wow. See. this is why I fail. I go and post something without taking into consideration the OP...sorry. really. |
Originally Posted by Angelofvalor
Ok first question any changes to recall friend? Not sure if I would find hasten more useful or not, any current sample builds I can look at? Seems there has been some changes to dark anyways help me out here please its been ages I do not even remember how to play it!
Thank you. |
ok to answer the question. recall friend is super important cuz your rez is targeted off a mob and is AoE. So if your friend dies you can get within range of a minion, (and make sure its a minion if you are using it as a rez to make sure it hits imo) teleport your friend to you then hit the rez.
Hasten is very useful and I think superspeed is a great match for dark since superspeed will combine with darks stealth power for full invis in PVE.
And finally, for a build I would check out Darkity's guide in the defender FAQs section. It is still very valid and is very informative and put together well.
Quote:
It's auto-hit..
|
Originally Posted by Griff Mender
and make sure its a minion if you are using it as a rez to make sure it hits imo |
Quote:
......oh.|
Originally Posted by Biscuits_EU
It's auto-hit..
|
And so I have achieved fail.
Well then...carry on.
Ok first question any changes to recall friend? Not sure if I would find hasten more useful or not, any current sample builds I can look at? Seems there has been some changes to dark anyways help me out here please its been ages I do not even remember how to play it!
Thank you.