Accuracy and some powers


Aett_Thorn

 

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Some powers, mostly PBAoE toggles it seems, have an Accuracy score listed, but do not accept Accuracy Enhancements (TOs, DOs, SOs, generic IOs). But the do allow some sets that have Acc components. When the sets are slotted, the Accuracy score shows that it is enhanced.

Now, does the Accuracy really do anything? Or is the power an autohit power? Is it a case by case basis? If so, is there a way to tell when some acc slotting might be needed, and when it's not? Two examples I can think of off the top of my head are Chilling Embrace from Ice Armour, and Arctic Air from Ice Control. I know there are a few more, but those 2 spring to mind.

Many thanks in advance for the help and input.


 

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It's a case by case basis, but in general, if the power doesn't allow for accuracy slotting, and doesn't do damage, then it's likely auto-hit. However, that's not always true.

Chilling Embrace, for instance, is an auto-hit aura. Arctic Air, if I remember correctly, the slow part of it is auto-hit, but the confuse part needs to make a To-Hit check, but I could be wrong on that. There are definitely a few closet cases, but I'd say that you're safe to assume a power is auto-hit if it doesn't do damage, and doesn't take accuracy.


Edit -> If you want to check out certain powers, check out this site:

http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/powers/

If you click on Tankers, then Ice Armor, then Chilling Embrace, you'll see a list of the power's attributes on the left-hand side. Down towards the bottom you'll see a value for "targets autohit," for which the value is set to "Foe." This means that it's autohit. If it doesn't have that value there, then it's not autohit.


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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
It's a case by case basis, but in general, if the power doesn't allow for accuracy slotting, and doesn't do damage, then it's likely auto-hit. However, that's not always true.

Chilling Embrace, for instance, is an auto-hit aura. Arctic Air, if I remember correctly, the slow part of it is auto-hit, but the confuse part needs to make a To-Hit check, but I could be wrong on that. There are definitely a few closet cases, but I'd say that you're safe to assume a power is auto-hit if it doesn't do damage, and doesn't take accuracy.


Edit -> If you want to check out certain powers, check out this site:

http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/powers/

If you click on Tankers, then Ice Armor, then Chilling Embrace, you'll see a list of the power's attributes on the left-hand side. Down towards the bottom you'll see a value for "targets autohit," for which the value is set to "Foe." This means that it's autohit. If it doesn't have that value there, then it's not autohit.

Edit: I was just about to ask what your edit pre-answered. Thanks.......


 

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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
If it doesn't have that value there, then it's not autohit.
Of course, some powers are autohit, but one of the effects of the power says "Not auto-hit". For an easy-to-find example, look at any instance of [Taunt]. "Entities autohit: Foe", but "+10.25s Taunt (mag 4) PvP only, Not auto-hit". The taunt requires accuracy in PvP.


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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper View Post
Of course, some powers are autohit, but one of the effects of the power says "Not auto-hit". For an easy-to-find example, look at any instance of [Taunt]. "Entities autohit: Foe", but "+10.25s Taunt (mag 4) PvP only, Not auto-hit". The taunt requires accuracy in PvP.

Thank you both very much. That's exactly what I needed to know.