Pet Toughness- Which primary comes out on top? (looking for ooolld post comparing pets vs pets)
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AzureHaze,
Posted on: 2010-11-07 16:26 in Masterminds
The pet vs pet post from before was 1 minion vs 1 minion, 1 lieut vs 1 lieut, 1 boss vs 1 boss.
Dont remember the post much but is that the one you were looking for? It wont give an accurate representation on which is the toughest really.
But AFAIK bots and thugs are toughest if you take the bubbling and leadership into account.
What about Demons now that they've been added?
Bots followed by Thugs, assuming both are softcapped.
I find the high resistance on demons to be not so great in practice: for low hp critters like your pets you are simply much better off not letting them get hit in the first place.
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This. While I can appreciate the academic curiosity behind the OP's question, in practice it's really a pointless exercise. There are just too many variables left out, such as the secondary, slotting, personal playstyle, and the fact that certain pets may fare better against one type versus another due to damage types and innate defenses. Not to mention that all the henchmen together will likely play better than the sum of their parts.|
Originally Posted by leilaopkin
The pet vs pet post from before was 1 minion vs 1 minion, 1 lieut vs 1 lieut, 1 boss vs 1 boss.
Dont remember the post much but is that the one you were looking for? It wont give an accurate representation on which is the toughest really. |
I don't recall the specific test that was run, but out of the box with no slotting (in which case no pet will be softcapped to anything), compared across the tiers, I would imagine that bots come out ahead.
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Originally Posted by Tangler
I find the high resistance on demons to be not so great in practice: for low hp critters like your pets you are simply much better off not letting them get hit in the first place.
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- The laws of science were, first, God's laws. We didn't make them, we just gave them a name...likely not the name their creator gave them.
- No, no. Humans made them. The same way we made gravity, the atomic bomb, Cheetos, babies, and water.
The only thing I can remember is that Jounins won the lieut battle?
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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I'm saying this from someone that plays a Demon/Therm. Out of my Bots/PD, Thugs/Traps and DS/Therm. My Bots still end up being the toughest, followed by Thugs (the only one that is softcapped) and then Demons.
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Originally Posted by Offda_Handel
I would disagree with this. Although not in the spirit of the OP's original question, it really depends on the secondary. One reason why DS/Therm meshes so well is because of the high resists it can achieve. Sure, your minions are getting hit more often, but when they do get hit, they aren't getting 1 or 2 shotted. Couple that with the healing Thermal provides and it makes for some extremely sturdy pets. In fact, I'm finding that I have to resummon my demons less than my bots now, although, admittedly, the borked AI plays some role in that.
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Bots being the toughest seems about right but I would still be nice to look at the original post comparing the tiers.
The secondaries don't really matter to me, dark or traps anything will be pretty hardy, I just wanted to know how they matched up to each other.
Lvl 50's: Twilight Projections-Dark/Psychic Defender- Justice,
Mad-Scientist -Bot/Poison MM- Freedom,
Ogun Ajala -Fire/Shield Scrapper - Virtue,
Make You Smile -Thugs/Dark - Virtue
Kyuji Warrior - Fire/Trick Arrow Corruptor - Virtue
I know this has been discussed much but I'm looking for a thread that actually compared pets vs pets in pvp battles, comparing tiers across the primaries. Does anyone have a link or remember the overall conclusions of this test?
Lvl 50's: Twilight Projections-Dark/Psychic Defender- Justice,
Mad-Scientist -Bot/Poison MM- Freedom,
Ogun Ajala -Fire/Shield Scrapper - Virtue,
Make You Smile -Thugs/Dark - Virtue
Kyuji Warrior - Fire/Trick Arrow Corruptor - Virtue