Their chances to hit are independent, so they can theoretically all go off at the same time
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Chance of any one going off: 20%
Chance of any two going off: 4%
Chance of any 3 going off: 0.8%
Chance of all 4 going off: 0.16%
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Assuming the power hits each proc will have a chance to fire and if multiple procs fire then they will each deal damage. Since it's an AoE each target will be checked independently.
Since each proc has a 20% chance of dealing 71.75 damage it's not really worth slotting them in place of damage enhancements. Each proc adds an average of 14.35 whereas a damage SO adds a garunteed 31.2 damage. So it's not worth considering adding procs until you've got 3 damage SOs (or equivilent) and sufficient accuracy. Even then recharge or endurance enhancements might be a better option.
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Would it make more since to stack procs like this in a power whose base damage was much smaller? Something atill with an area, like Caltrops perhaps is what I'm thinking?
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Assuming the power hits each proc will have a chance to fire and if multiple procs fire then they will each deal damage. Since it's an AoE each target will be checked independently.
Since each proc has a 20% chance of dealing 71.75 damage it's not really worth slotting them in place of damage enhancements. Each proc adds an average of 14.35 whereas a damage SO adds a garunteed 31.2 damage. So it's not worth considering adding procs until you've got 3 damage SOs (or equivilent) and sufficient accuracy. Even then recharge or endurance enhancements might be a better option. |
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See my earlier post. It's hard to imagine you could have (in this instance) 3 slots that wouldn't be better spent somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by Madadh
Would it make more since to stack procs like this in a power whose base damage was much smaller? Something atill with an area, like Caltrops perhaps is what I'm thinking?
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OK, looking at the previous post you mentioned.... I think you statistics-fu is off. If each proc has a 20% chance of going off, and you have 3 or 4 as the OP indicated, then your chance of at least 1 going off is going to be greater than 20%. I mean, if you rolled 5 dice at once, your odds of seeing at least 1 six is better than 1 in 6. Unless the game has coding to prevent the normal statistical odds from working. Does it? I've not heard of that before.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
Their chances to hit are independent, so they can theoretically all go off at the same time
BUT Chance of any one going off: 20% Chance of any two going off: 4% Chance of any 3 going off: 0.8% Chance of all 4 going off: 0.16% |
Wow, I didn't even look at the actual numbers before. Yeah, they're way off. If you have 4 procs each with a 20% chance to fire, the chance of one or more firing is 74.4%. Please note, I'm not saying that's the chance of EXACTLY one firing. It's the chance of ONE OR MORE.
I'm too lazy to calculate the odds of each number firing. 
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Well with continuous powers such as Caltrops and most toggles the proc only checks once every 10 seconds which limits the effectiveness. Personally I tend to find that there are better places in my build for those slots but I have met people who stack procs in Caltrops (or similar powers) and swear by it so it really comes down to what works for you.
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Originally Posted by Madadh
Would it make more since to stack procs like this in a power whose base damage was much smaller? Something atill with an area, like Caltrops perhaps is what I'm thinking?
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With 4 20% chances, you have a 4*(.2*.8^3), or 40.96% chance of exactly one proc firing.
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
Wow, I didn't even look at the actual numbers before. Yeah, they're way off. If you have 4 procs each with a 20% chance to fire, the chance of one or more firing is 74.4%. Please note, I'm not saying that's the chance of EXACTLY one firing. It's the chance of ONE OR MORE.
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If I slot this with
ERADICATION - CHANCE FOR ENERGY DAMAGE
OBLITERATION - CHANCE FOR SMASHING DAMAGE
LADY GREY - CHANCE FOR NEGATIVE ENERGY DAMAGE
SCIROCCO'S DEVRISH - CHANCE FOR LETHAL DAMAGE
Will these all have a chance to fire off when the power is used, and if so - let say that 2 of them rolled a 'hit' , would damage from both 'hits' apply, or only the strongest or what. Im not real sure I understand how this scenario would work.
Advice?
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