The shields are pretty much the same - good S/L resists with a side of something else.
Electric wins points for covering Energy, probably the third most common attack type.
Psi wins points for covering Psi damage, which isn't covered by Thermal or Sonic if you use them.
Dark wins for me though because of Oppressive Gloom. Best Defender epic power evah! Especially when there's more than one of you.
If you're softcapped I'd be looking at what else the power pools give you. Soul Drain is pretty sweet too, by the way, another reason to go Dark Mastery.
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I like dark for soul drain. Oppresive gloom won't be of use to you. If you're softcapped you'll take more damage with oppressivle gloom on then if you have it off.
If it's just the shield your looking at, I'd probably go with temp invulnerability from power mastery.
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Originally Posted by DrMike2000
The shields are pretty much the same - good S/L resists with a side of something else.
Electric wins points for covering Energy, probably the third most common attack type. Psi wins points for covering Psi damage, which isn't covered by Thermal or Sonic if you use them. Dark wins for me though because of Oppressive Gloom. Best Defender epic power evah! Especially when there's more than one of you. If you're softcapped I'd be looking at what else the power pools give you. Soul Drain is pretty sweet too, by the way, another reason to go Dark Mastery. Congrats on 40 by the way. Go check out the Shadow Shard if you havent already! (Firebase Zulu marker in Peregrine Island) |
Is a Dark shield gonna be enough to make it through to 50? I really wanna hit that with ONE of my teams for once...
-Rb
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Your soft cap is coming from Fortitude primarily, right? That has psionic defense, as does Weave, so the need for some extra psi resist isn't going to be as prevalent as it is for someone who used IOs to soft-cap S/L or ranged defense.|
Originally Posted by Robert_B
I was going to go Dark while I created this team (2 Emp/Archers) and now a Fire/Rad without CC, so I think I'll stick to that plan, it's just when a PSI blast does get through it hurts.......
Is a Dark shield gonna be enough to make it through to 50? I really wanna hit that with ONE of my teams for once... -Rb |
Soul Drain does stick out for such a trio among the Epics. How easy would it be for you to become a villain and do a patron arc? The problem with Dark Mastery is you're waiting till 47 for the gemstone. If you do a patron arc and grab Soul Mastery, you can get it at 41. I also would think having a hold attack on your Defenders might come in handy for when you want to lock down some particularly nasty targets. Soul Mastery would give you that, and Dark would not.
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The problem there is that the Soul Mastery version has twice the recharge of the Dark Mastery version.
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Originally Posted by Gilia
Soul Drain does stick out for such a trio among the Epics. How easy would it be for you to become a villain and do a patron arc? The problem with Dark Mastery is you're waiting till 47 for the gemstone. If you do a patron arc and grab Soul Mastery, you can get it at 41. I also would think having a hold attack on your Defenders might come in handy for when you want to lock down some particularly nasty targets. Soul Mastery would give you that, and Dark would not.
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Originally Posted by Gilia
Your soft cap is coming from Fortitude primarily, right? That has psionic defense, as does Weave, so the need for some extra psi resist isn't going to be as prevalent as it is for someone who used IOs to soft-cap S/L or ranged defense.
Soul Drain does stick out for such a trio among the Epics. How easy would it be for you to become a villain and do a patron arc? The problem with Dark Mastery is you're waiting till 47 for the gemstone. If you do a patron arc and grab Soul Mastery, you can get it at 41. I also would think having a hold attack on your Defenders might come in handy for when you want to lock down some particularly nasty targets. Soul Mastery would give you that, and Dark would not. |
I am going to get Stunning shot (thats 2 of them at a time), I just don't know which shield to get, I am thinking PSI because of what I am fighting now, but it might change as I go during the run to 50 as it were.
I'm also not interested in going Red or Gold, so that pool is out for me.
What Res would be the most useful IYHO fro that range?
-Rb
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I gotta look at that one Shred, I guess it kinda depends on the recharge.
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I like dark for soul drain. Oppresive gloom won't be of use to you. If you're softcapped you'll take more damage with oppressivle gloom on then if you have it off.
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I would say Electrical. The difference in S/L res between Temp Invulnerability and the other shields is tiny and in the level 40-50 range pretty much every enemy group has at least one unit that deals energy damage whereas dark, psionic and toxic are a lot less common (although when you do meet them they tend to come in large amounts).
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Originally Posted by Robert_B
What Res would be the most useful IYHO fro that range?
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50s: Bla- Arch/Mental Cont- Mind/FF, Earth/Cold, Ill/Therm, Earth/Rad Dominator- Plant/Psi, Elec/Earth Corr- Fire/Storm, Arch/Sonic, Rad/Kin, Beam/Sonic, Psi/Time Stalker- Elec/SR Def- Storm/Dark, Emp/Psi, Dark/Elec, FF/Arch, TA/Ice, TA/Elec, Kin/AR, Cold/DP, Traps/Psi Scrap- Fire/Shield Tanker- Dark/Mace, Ice/Kin Brute- Claws/WP, SS/Energy, BS/Elec
Am I correct in thinking this is for a Empathy/Arch?
In that case you probably want something that doesn't cause a lot of redraw (Psychic Mastery's biggest selling point is probably not the Psi Shield but Dominate - it's very good DPS on par or better than most Tier 2 blasts, but will cause redraw for an Archer)
Honestly, as an Empath I'd switch sides in order to pick up a Patron Pool. You've got a wide variety of Buffs that will work very well on a Pet. And as you're likely to be pushing for +Recharge to get your Auras and Adrenaline Boost up sooner anyway, the aforementioned Pet should have a low downtime.
Soul Mastery looks the best pick out of the lot.
Resistance based Shield - S/L resists will stack with Tough - Toxic Resists which will help you versus many endgame mobs- such as Arachnoids, Arachnos and Hydra. Dark Resists even help versus certain other stuff like the old Preatorian Shadow mobs. There is no typed Toxic Defence in the game... and certain Toxic attacks have no Positional Component, meaning there is no defence that works against them at all - but they'll still get mitigated via resistance.
Soul Drain - Very large self-damage-boost for stacking with Rain of Arrows. Downtime gets lowered with +Recharge, which as an Empath you'll likely be building for anyway.
Power Boost - Will make your Fortitude and Heals much more powerful. Downtime lowered with +Recharge. Is up far more often than Power Mastery's "Power Build Up" (since it doesn't also boost your Damage/ToHit).
Summon Fortuna - Fortuna is one of the highest damage patron pets. Being ranged rather then Melee, it's usually fairly well behaved. It's fairly fragile but gets mez protection and 5% Defence to everything - which will stack with your Fortitude/Maneuvers (One Power Boosted Fortitude alone will put it to just over 43% Defence to everything) and it even has some Psi resists. Downtime lowered with +Recharge.
Soul Storm is the obvious skippable one. Archery already has Stunning Arrow.
If you ONLY care about the shield, then electric's armor is the best.
Hey All,
My first toons finally hit 40 (woooo). So, now that my APP is drawing near, I have to wonder, from 40-50 which shield do I want the most.
My toon is soft capped (around 46% or so) and has Tough/Weave so I do have some S/L Res going as it is, but which shield do I want now? I'm thinking perhaps PSI res since Carnies have it and so do Arach's but what would you all suggest?
It's all Radio/Tip mishes for me for the most part, perhaps a farm or two with some other toons but mostly Radio.
-Rb