does KICK cause redraw?
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-10-08 21:41 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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You might want to read the posts myself and Jade Dragon made above yours. While we don't know all of the details BaBs expressed the view several times that eliminating redraw was not a trivial issue and that the one power that does eliminate it (Brawl) had to be made VERY complicated to support that.
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Originally Posted by Roleplayer606
Yes kick causes redraw have on my broadsword / regen scrapper and is very disheartening maybe is time they took time fix whole redraw issue instead focusing on lame packs and such.
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It likely is. I suspect the reason it hasn't been done yet has more to do with the number of people that have each power respectively. |
Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Almost certainly. If it's doable with Brawl it is theoretically doable with any power.
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100% of the characters in the game have Brawl.
I'm quite sure the number of characters that have Kick is substantially lower. They did it with Brawl because it was something everyone would benefit from, while Kick isn't taken often enough to make it a priority for them.
It's probably one of those "when we have time to do it" propositions.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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Is he? That MMORPG article was posted on the 7th, and BAB's last activity on the forums was on the 10th. It also says "possibly including", and that's the only indication I've seen of BAB being gone.
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Originally Posted by TameDragon
BaBs is gone
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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And the other single exception of the Arachnos Mace of Bane Spider Soldier Mace Mastery.
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Originally Posted by Gilia
All the power pool and epic power pool attacks will cause redraw (with the single exception of the Assault Rifle of Blaster Munition Mastery).
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Well, having particular Powers bypass redraw, and eliminating redraw ENTIRELY are two different things. Again, BaBs made it pretty clear he TRIED to eliminate redraw, and it broke Shields. So no hope in that direction.
The thing about Assault Rifle/Munitions Mastery, and Bane Spider/Mace Mastery, is that they use the same weapon. The same applies to Archery and Trick Arrow. If you have one but not the other, you WILL redraw when you draw the weapon. The only thing this demonstrates is that it is possible to "assign" the same weapon to two Power Sets and have them work together somehow.
Unfortunately, what it seems like is not possible is having the weapon chosen for one Power Set depend on what other Power Set is selected. For instance, having Munitions Mastery (or Devices, or Traps, or a theoretical weapon-based set for Doms or Controllers) use a bow as a launcher if you chose Archery, the machine gun for Assault Rifle, or pistols if you chose Dual Pistols. Or even, a DIFFERENT launcher (or thrown, as a grenade) if you have no such weapon.
It's also interesting that Mace Mastery does not use the same mace as War Mace in general, but I assume the devs intended for the two to remain separate. War Mace has no Arachnos options (although the studded mace and fantasy mace would be pretty good matches in black) and Mace Mastery has no non-Arachnos options. (Although I would like to see all Arachnos Power Sets get "disguised" weapons for when you are in your civilian costumes)
I'm also curious about Munitions Mastery. I believe at one time LRM Rocket made you pull out a rocket launcher, but I'm guessing from what is being said here that both the rocket and the Cryo Freeze Ray are fired from the Assault Rifle now. Or maybe just the rocket.
Lame packs and such? You mean new content?
Yeah, stop adding to the game and fix that animation. *sigh*
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