Yeah, he doesn't know what he's talking about. The only time you'd need WAY more than the cap is if you're facing resist debuffs... in which case... I don't even know if that helps.
Not to mention that you probably shouldn't use Unstoppable on Recluse anyway.
Hell, my DA tank laughs at Recluse.
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The Resist cap is just that-- a cap.
It's where you can't possibly have any more resistance than you already have. Now, I can understand the point of view of "more slotted resistance would help with resistance debuffs", but AFAIK no AV in the STF has a -Resistance power. Only -defense.
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Running Unstoppable against LR, with or without slotting it, is a death sentence.
As for going that far over 90% resistance, anything that could debuff it far enough to matter would probably kill you anyway, so there's no real point.
I don't even take Unstoppable, but if I did the only thing I would ever put in it is a Steadfast Res/Def IO, and even then only if that build was not going to exemplar to low levels. OK, I would also put in the PvP +Res IO, but at that point you're getting into 'insanely expensive build' territory and it's not an IO most folks will ever have.
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Running Unstoppable against LR, with or without slotting it, is a death sentence.
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Oh, and running Unstoppable against LR is NOT a death sentence. Just pop two purples and two oranges just before the Crash o' Death and you'll be OK.
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Yeah, he doesn't know what he's talking about. The only time you'd need WAY more than the cap is if you're facing resist debuffs... in which case... I don't even know if that helps.
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And if your ex-guild leader is using the words 'Unstoppable' and 'Lord Recluse' in the same sentence, he doesn't have a clue. And I HAVE tanked LR on my invuln - without using Unstoppable (and I do have it).
P.S. I do actually have Unstoppable slotted for resistance - because it gets a slot for free and I didn't have anything else I wanted to put in it.
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Now that that's out of my system i have to agree with the rest here that the OP's guild leader didn't really know what he was talking about.
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Unstoppable was well over slotted as some people have said.
I have used unstoppable versus Recluse with a build that didn't have tough in it.
I have used Unstoppable 3 times in a row as soon as it is up in front of Ghost Widow, Mako and Scirroco without being defeated during any or between any of the crashes. Not being afraid to crash and with a cup half full myself I don't knock what players do to get things done. Some players will work past the crashes, some won't. It is not a death sentence as been said.
Unaided in terms of support, in melee, an Invuln tanker can go the distance a teams fight duration, with Ghost Widow, they could be hit by soul storm but they ain't going down due to being unstoppable.
Ofc nobody needs to need unstoppable.
All that KB protection and the Panacea looks to me like he pvps.
But I still don't get all that extra resistance.
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Unstoppable is a last minute resort. You really don't use it unless you are in a real bad spot and even then I make sure to time it with dull the pain so I don't wipe out.
There is really no no need to slot it, if your capped, and you definitly don't need IO's for it.
This may change when we get inherient fitness, but I'm just speculating.
I got into an argument with my guild leader which led me to being kicked from the guild. I was already thinking about leaving, so it wasn't a big deal. However, he never could explain to me why you would slot resistance enhancements in Unstoppable. He claimed it was for STF, but couldn't give me an exact reason other than the fact that he has 4-manned it.
I want to know why going over 90% resistance helps against anything. It would also like to know if I was right so I can feel better about not being in that guild.
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Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Energy Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
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Level 1: Resist Physical Damage ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(5), ResDam-I(5)
Level 1: Barrage Acc-I(A)
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(3), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(3), ImpArm-ResDam(15), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42)
Level 4: Bone Smasher C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 6: Dull Pain Panac-Heal/+End(A), Panac-Heal(7), Panac-Heal/EndRedux(7), Panac-Heal/Rchg(11), Panac-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(11), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 8: Unyielding S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(9), TtmC'tng-ResDam(9), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(15), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 10: Combat Jumping Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Resist Energies ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(13), ResDam-I(13)
Level 14: Super Jump Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Swift Run-I(A)
Level 18: Invincibility LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(19), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(19), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Ksmt-ToHit+(37), Ksmt-Def/EndRdx(37)
Level 20: Whirling Hands Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Oblit-Dmg(23), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(23), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 22: Health Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(43), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(43)
Level 24: Stamina EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(25), EndMod-I(25)
Level 26: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 28: Build Up Rec'dRet-Pcptn(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(29), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(29), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(43), GSFC-ToHit(45)
Level 30: Tough Hide DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(31), DefBuff-I(31)
Level 32: Unstoppable ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(33), ResDam-I(33), RechRdx-I(33), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 35: Energy Transfer C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(42)
Level 38: Total Focus C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(39), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Ring of Fire Acc-I(A)
Level 44: Melt Armor AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(A), AnWeak-DefDeb(45), AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(46), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg(46), AnWeak-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Taunt Taunt-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 6: Ninja Run
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Why do you have so much knockback protection slotted? Your power set includes 10 mag and 10000% resistance to knockback. You don't really need more mag protection.
Unstoppable does not need resistance IOs slotted. You will be way over the resistance cap on all but a few damage types. The remaining are just slightly below the cap.
You have way too much accuracy in your build. If I understand the attack mechanics correctly, 243% accuracy gives you capped hit chance against +4 enemies and 197% accuracy is enough for capped hit chance against +3s. If you aim for 200% for each attack, you should have a 78% chance to hit +4s, which you probably won't fight often. A few different set bonuses might benefit you more than the accuracy you have.
When I19 make the fitness pool inherent, you might benefit from taking Tough and Weave from the fighting pool. The extra resistance from Tough will help you get to the smashing/lethal cap. Weave's extra defense is nice to have.