Theoretically, yes. Was it thought of in Beta? I don't remember it being brought up. Not to cast aspersions, but most Beta Testers were the type to remember to take care of such things before switching sides. 
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I feel dumb that it wasn't something I thought to test when I did my side switching in beta.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Theoretically, yes. Was it thought of in Beta? I don't remember it being brought up. Not to cast aspersions, but most Beta Testers were the type to remember to take care of such things before switching sides.
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Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
I feel dumb that it wasn't something I thought to test when I did my side switching in beta.
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Heck no! I cleared the RWZ arc and now I have one arc slot open.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
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It's funny you bring this up, cause i was thinking about that the other night when we were doing Maria's arc and was going to test it out and make a post about it. It looks like you saved me the trouble. Thanks!
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No problem!
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
It's funny you bring this up, cause i was thinking about that the other night when we were doing Maria's arc and was going to test it out and make a post about it. It looks like you saved me the trouble. Thanks!
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Either that or they were not working story arcs. Either way I call this a big issue to be missed between the beta testers and the developers.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Theoretically, yes. Was it thought of in Beta? I don't remember it being brought up. Not to cast aspersions, but most Beta Testers were the type to remember to take care of such things before switching sides.
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Most of the beta testers are the OCD types that hate leaving open arcs. That and it wasn't one of the things that was asked to be tested.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Theoretically, yes. Was it thought of in Beta? I don't remember it being brought up. Not to cast aspersions, but most Beta Testers were the type to remember to take care of such things before switching sides.
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There is/was an issue with the RWZ arcs preventing other arcs from starting. This has been around since Issue 10 and I don't think it was ever fixed.
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Beta testers, in general, tested what the developers asked them to test. That is the nature of beta testing.
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Originally Posted by Transhade
Either that or they were not working story arcs. Either way I call this a big issue to be missed between the beta testers and the developers.
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In the scale of Things That Can Go Wrong, I call this a very minor issue.|
Originally Posted by Transhade
Either that or they were not working story arcs. Either way I call this a big issue to be missed between the beta testers and the developers.
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It's not something that will pop up often and it's something the player can fix themselves.
In the MMO world... that's minor.
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It's also the sort of thing that tends to crop up after the fact, with a mass experience of people. Yeah, we didn't think to test that--frankly, it's not something we'd regularly encounter. Similarly, the whole fog of war thing not clearing again, as well as souvenirs not awarding any more. There's a reason these are all cropping up almost a month after GR went live.
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That one was found very early on in beta. However, seeing that it wasn't fixed, it was likely deemed a "low priority". As a player I consider it a major annoyance made worse since it trips on a veteran reward power.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Similarly, the whole fog of war thing not clearing again
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Your response was amusing. Yes it is minor in the grand scheme of things, but it does not change the fact that it could have been caught and corrected in Beta and should have. Using your same logic, they really shouldn't have fixed the crystal in Cimerora, it was something fixable by players as well and that was one object in one zone, minor in the MMO world....
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In the scale of Things That Can Go Wrong, I call this a very minor issue.
It's not something that will pop up often and it's something the player can fix themselves. In the MMO world... that's minor. |
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Your response was amusing. Yes it is minor in the grand scheme of things, but it does not change the fact that it could have been caught and corrected in Beta and should have.
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Could it have been found in beta? Maybe. I think you don't realize how bad the copy tool has been. It was down for most of the beta, and new characters would not have 6-7 open arcs. Heck, I doubt that many characters on the live servers have the maximum amount of open arcs open.
Would it have been fixed while in beta? Not likely. As I pointed out to Dumpleberry, the fog of war bug came back and it wasn't fixed. The fog of war bug will affect far more players than having the maximum amount of arc open on the other side.
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Originally Posted by Transhade
Using your same logic, they really shouldn't have fixed the crystal in Cimerora, it was something fixable by players as well and that was one object in one zone, minor in the MMO world....
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In the scale of Things That Can Go Wrong, I call this a very minor issue.
It's not something that will pop up often and it's something the player can fix themselves. In the MMO world... that's minor. |
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Using your same logic, they really shouldn't have fixed the crystal in Cimerora, it was something fixable by players as well and that was one object in one zone, minor in the MMO world....
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about, do you?
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They are completely different types of circumstances. Having arcs open on the opposing side preventing you from getting a new arc isn't necessarily broken, it's just a policy oversight. It was designed to have a limit, and still works as it was designed to do. The point of this thread is to let people know about the issue and to possibly have the design changed to accommodate the new features in the game.
Some people are not even aware of arc limits to begin with, let alone realize how arcs on the opposite faction might factor into their ability to grab new ones. I can't count how many threads over the years of people asking "why isn't Maria giving me her arc?". This tells me it's going to be an issue regardless of faction-related limitations. It's a simple mechanic of the game. If you want to get a new arc, you finish your old ones. If that means switching sides again to do it, that's what you will do.
It cannot be compared to getting stuck in the Cimerora Crystal. The fact that there were a few workarounds doesn't mean it should be classified as a minor annoyance. That was broken.. plain and simple.
I decided I'd like to get my SS/Fire Brute the demon farm hero side so I went through the process of switching him etc.. I get Harvey Maylor as a contact, my only contact. Do all his missions. He never offers me his arc.
I think maybe I have too many arcs open despite not having any missions available. So I look to count my book icons sure enough all my villain contacts are still counted as active contacts and have locked me out of getting any new arcs. Fortunately I found that I had an RWZ arc open as well so I could complete it but still. This should reset the count when you switch sides, shouldn't it?