Storm/Ice Blast or Ice Control/Storm?
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Posted on: 2010-08-22 02:21 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
Playing two controllers will probably never be redundant. Storm summoning is probably one of the most control heavy debuff sets around, so you might find some overlap in playing a controller with a storm secondary. At the same time, playing a storm defender with ice blast will almost make one feel like a controller.
My suggestion would be to go ahead with the storm/ice defender. Some of the most recent changes to Vigilance allow a nice +damage bonus that reduces with the number of teammates you have. Since you mentioned that you will likely just duo with you grav control friend, you will probably still benefit from the new buff.
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Originally Posted by magikwand
Playing two controllers will probably never be redundant. Storm summoning is probably one of the most control heavy debuff sets around, so you might find some overlap in playing a controller with a storm secondary. At the same time, playing a storm defender with ice blast will almost make one feel like a controller.
My suggestion would be to go ahead with the storm/ice defender. Some of the most recent changes to Vigilance allow a nice +damage bonus that reduces with the number of teammates you have. Since you mentioned that you will likely just duo with you grav control friend, you will probably still benefit from the new buff. |
Leaning more towards a defender role now.
You bet. I don't know the exact numbers, but for a solo or duo'd defender, you will pack a nice punch. Enjoy!
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New Vigilance.
When solo, defenders get a +30% damage buff, that decreases by -10% per teammate.
2-man team: +20% damage
3-man team: +10% damage
4-man team and up: +0% (no bonus)
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Originally Posted by Simon W
Hi!
I recently started playing CoH/CoV with a friend of mine who's playing a Controller with Gravity Control and Force Field. I always wanted a Storm Summoning type after I saw it being summoned in the starting area for CoV.. However, I'm having a hard time deciding between a Controller myself, or a Defender type. Since I'll be playing with another controller, will it be redundant with two? I love the idea of two pets (Jack Frost and Lightning Storm), and I also like that we both benefit from Containment.. On the other hand, a Defender get Vigilance with it's endurance reduction, BUT it seems to depend quite a lot on the # of teammates, and since we will almost always duo (only two), I don't know how much impact that endurance reduction really does? Basically, is a Controller + Controller over the top? And might Controller + Defender be a better option? I'm leaning more to the Controller part myself, but I thought I'd hear from you first.. |
Ice is the lowest damage controller primary, just slightly lower than Earth and Electric. Its only damage worth mentioning is its single target hold, its single target Immob and its pet. It provides great control/support, especially for larger teams. Can you solo with it? Uh, yeah, but very slowly. My Ice/Storm at 50 can solo, but even with vet powers, the late storm powers and the APP powers, it still is pretty slow.
I would say that an Ice/Storm can make a good teammate with a high damage melee partner, especially if you take Arctic Air. As for your question, I'd recommend the Storm/Ice Defender.
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Thanks for all the replies.
Eventually, I went for a Storm Ice Defender. Seems to work out just fine And I can imagine that it probably deals more damage than the Controller/Controller combo, now that I think of it.. And now that I know the Vigilance bonus
Hi!
I recently started playing CoH/CoV with a friend of mine who's playing a Controller with Gravity Control and Force Field.
I always wanted a Storm Summoning type after I saw it being summoned in the starting area for CoV.. However, I'm having a hard time deciding between a Controller myself, or a Defender type.
Since I'll be playing with another controller, will it be redundant with two? I love the idea of two pets (Jack Frost and Lightning Storm), and I also like that we both benefit from Containment..
On the other hand, a Defender get Vigilance with it's endurance reduction, BUT it seems to depend quite a lot on the # of teammates, and since we will almost always duo (only two), I don't know how much impact that endurance reduction really does?
Basically, is a Controller + Controller over the top? And might Controller + Defender be a better option? I'm leaning more to the Controller part myself, but I thought I'd hear from you first..