light form in pvp or tough

So is it even worth it to use light form in pvp anymore? i Recently used it on my human form pb and i think i was capped at around 60 with the shields on.. so is that even worth it since i can just get tough with my pb shields and be around 50% to all including psi. And dont have to deal with the crash..

So whats the deal is light form even worth it anymore?

I wouldn't use Light Form for PVP even before the days of Diminishing Returns. Why would you want a power that locks you into a sub-par damage dealing form? Sure you're still alive, but then so is every villain in the zone.

I wouldn't take tough either. For PVP, IMHO you're best off pursuing ranged soft cap and dropping a +perception IO in Nova. Use human form for the heals and buildup and STAY IN NOVA as much as possible. Even stunned or held or hit with -fly you won't drop to the ground for the easy kill, and your attacks - while you've only got 4 - are still much much stronger than anything human form has to offer.

Unless, of course, you're going for a human only build. Can't help you there.

I have been PvPing with a human form PB for a while now. I took him from 0-400 rep and then I took a break on him. Once I came back to PvP with my peacebringer again I took him from 90 back to 400 rep. I do have a few hundred hours of experience PvPing with a PB and I do have Light Form in my build. I use it mainly for duels, but I also use it when I am getting spiked. I love it when I do use it because nobody knows what attack I am doing because I am a ball of light. I also use it when I fight a thermal because it gives me some +endurance, but not enough to keep toggles up. It is just enough to get to a safe location before toggles drop.

I had tough on my build for a while, but when I team with blasters and scrappers my resist goes up and tough is a wasted toggle. I PvP on freedom and there is no shortage of scrappers and blasters in RV. I decided to get leadership instead of fighting power pool. I like the perception in tactics I get and +tohit. I picked maneuvers for the LoTG and KB protection proc. I did not get vengeance in my build, but I might get it if I respec. I currently have Radiant Strike and I barely use it so I might get better use with vengeance since I have good survival tools and I can just use it off a fallen team member.

PvPing with a Human PB is like the same concept as a Blapper, just less damage. Since the attacks are -defense you can slot with nice procs.

Range Procs
Apoc Proc - Chance for Negative Energy Dam
Gladiator's Javelin - Chance for Toxic Dam

-Defense Procs
Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Energy Dam

Melee Procs
Touch of Death - Chance for NE Damage
Mako's Bite - Chance for Lethal Damage
Hecatomb - Chance for Negative Energy Dam
Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Dam

You can even use Solar Flare as a -resist debuff by adding:
Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for -Resistance
Achilles' Heel - Chance for Resistance Debuff

Human PB may do less damage than most aggressive AT's, but we are able to proc our damage a lot and it makes a huge difference. On my most recent build I have gleaming bolt (the weakest single target range attack) slotted with 2 ACC/Dam Hami's, 1 apoc proc, 1 shield breaker proc, 1 glad jav proc and 1 touch of lady grey proc and it takes an attack that does an average of 70 pts of damage to almost 400 when they all proc at the same time.

... Oops I got carried away and lost track of topic. IMO light form is nice to have but not needed. It can help you in a pinch and is great for duels and tough is a wasted toggle.

stick a few -res procs to make incandecense strike hit like a truck

Light form definetly has a place in PVP. The main reason I use it (aside from the +end and +res) you don't suffer from going through power animations so you are constantly on the move and firing off blasts non stop (I took bolt and eyes and proc'ed them out.) The crash is a non issue if you have more than 100 end. I have 111 end on my PB and you only loose 100 end in the crash. So, pop a heal and your back in the game. Pop Geas if you want end back right away.

Interesting info there, Big Soto... I need to take another look at my alternate build for my PB now.

"Alien"

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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades The way you play changes your IO slotting..

kool thanks for the replies but before i checked the forums i decided to go with a old blapper/dwarf build high recharge and hp.. and kept light form for the hell of it..

but yea procs are def the key.. and the Achilles heel in all the range attacks is heaven sent..

Just thought of this, so I'm not sure how it'll work. But for the shield bind you might try:

/bind [key] "powexec_toggleoff White Dwarf$$goto_tray 1$$powexec_toggleon shining shield$$powexec_name thermal shield$$powexec_auto quantum shield"

That's a big if on whether that works or not, so if it doesn't try the combination of these two binds:

/bind [key] "powexec_toggleoff white dwarf$$goto_tray 1$$powexec_toggleon shining shield"

/bind [key] "+down$$powexec_toggleon thermal shield$$powexec_toggleon quantum shield"

Basically hit one key to drop to human form and toggle your smashing/lethal shield on and then hit the next one to toggle the other two shields on.

As for the dwarf teleport bind, you can use the standard:

/bind lshift+lclick powexec_name white dwarf step

teleport is targeted, so you'll always have to click at least once.

each bind can only execute one power. What I suggest you do is get a bind that detoggles dwarf and nova and activates either sj or flight so you an fly up or jump and toggle on ur shields. Personally for pvp I use a tri form. I mostly stay in nova and I use a bind for quantum flight when I get in trouble. I also use a bind to get in dwarf form for the heal and tp.

as far as light form goes, it's very useful if ur running a mostly human form. You get great resists and once it crashes you could fly aroun in nova form until it rechrges if you don't like running around in human form w/o it. I don't use light form bc the tri form I run only uses the human for quantum flight, heals and build up. But from what I can see as far as ur play style, you should pick it up.

also tough gets hit very hard by dr, plus that human form doesn't need more toggles.