Hypothetical: what would you do with a big stockpile of merits?


Another_Fan

 

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Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
Not sure this is right unless you REALLY want a PvP IO.

20M + 50 merits = 1 A-merit = 5 rolls

100 merits = 5 rolls

so 20M = 50 merits = 2.5 rolls, valuing a roll at 8M.

When the prices drop due to people taking random rolls from earned A-merits, I'm not sure whether they'll be worth that.

Might just about be worth it if there are pool A recipes that cost a fortune, are direct purchasable with 1 A-merit, and the prices don't crash quite as hard.

HVMs are actually worth up to 120 merits seeing as 2 will let you direct purchase things that you want at the level you want.

Numinas miracles, lotg +7.5 etc at the lowest levels, would normally be 240 merits are now 2 HVMs

So its 140 merits = 40 million inf or ~= 300k /merit currently merits convert at 650k/merit so untill prices drop by more than half this makes sense.

I expect max level items will be flooding the market so badly that the devs will have to nerf this.

Does anyone remember merit duping and the market shutdown to pull lotg+7.5s after merits were introduced ? I don't think it will be as bad or as fast but its going to be there.


 

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HVMs are actually worth up to 120 merits seeing as 2 will let you direct purchase things that you want at the level you want.

Numinas miracles, lotg +7.5 etc at the lowest levels, would normally be 240 merits are now 2 HVMs

So its 140 merits = 40 million inf or ~= 300k /merit currently merits convert at 650k/merit so untill prices drop by more than half this makes sense.

I expect max level items will be flooding the market so badly that the devs will have to nerf this.

Does anyone remember merit duping and the market shutdown to pull lotg+7.5s after merits were introduced ? I don't think it will be as bad or as fast but its going to be there.
Currently merits are about 1 million each. There will be a reduction in available cash [deflation]- right now, every 1 million inf you farm up converts to roughly 10 million inf spent on the market, whereas a million inf spent on HVMs is 100% gone- as well as an increase in things to buy.

On the one hand the value of merits, expressed in inf, will go down; on the other, available inf will ALSO go down.

It is very easy to increase the cash-to-stuff ratio that an individual generates; farming at +1 instead of even will (I think) increase your cash-to-stuff ratio by 30%. Running TF's at +1 instead of even, likewise. Large teams increase the cash-to-stuff ratio.

Right now we've got SO MUCH CASH (and so little stuff, by comparison) that there's no reason to go out of your way to do these things.

I think prices will go down (expressed in inf) but will remain steady or go up (expressed in "hours played to get the shiny.") I've been wrong before.


EDIT: Dammit, went off on a tangent.

My experience with creating low-level recipes [directly and indirectly] seems to indicate that if they're out there, they WILL be bought. Maybe not as fast as level 50's, and not at the high prices that level 50's get, but they move. There's a lot of reasons people don't supply them ("What's a reward merit?", lower profit levels, slower movement) and fewer reasons people don't demand them. Changing the supply side seems to work better. Maybe after the market merge I'll work on creating a market at lower levels for an entire set and report back on how that works.


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Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
I expect max level items will be flooding the market so badly that the devs will have to nerf this.
I expect many MIN level items as well. Some of those globals are worth alot more at low level than at 50.


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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
My experience with creating low-level recipes [directly and indirectly] seems to indicate that if they're out there, they WILL be bought. Maybe not as fast as level 50's, and not at the high prices that level 50's get, but they move. There's a lot of reasons people don't supply them ("What's a reward merit?", lower profit levels, slower movement) and fewer reasons people don't demand them. Changing the supply side seems to work better.
This is my experience too. I only have one character left under level 30 with less than 100 million inf, and all of them have far more IOs than DO/SOs slotted. As in 90-10 split.

If you post them, and leave them up, they will sell. And while they may not sell for 10 digits, if I'm level 17 and I sell five IOs for 65k to 200k, that's way better than the 600 (no k) I would get for selling a TO, or the 250 for vendoring salvage. But there are plenty of IOs I move for over a million before level 30.


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Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
Didn't answer this when I first saw it*, but the winning answer is turn them into hero villain merits.

*NDA in effect
Spot on.


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