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Originally Posted by False_Fiction_EU
So, I've been toying with a couple combos on mid's (Rad/Fire, Fire/Ice, Rad/Ice, Rad/Elec) and I keep looking at the numbers on CB and Blaze. The first one says its an Extreme damage power, while Blaze is "only" High damage. However, if you compare both powers 3 slotted with 3 damage IOs the difference is huge: 264 for CB and 376,1 for Blaze.
Now, I've been playing mmorpgs long enough to know that Fire is always the most damaging element. What I don't get here is the discrepancy between both powers descriptions and its damage numbers. Sure, CB has a stun and -def as secondary effects and Fire is supposed to do extra damage. But if you bring Bitter Ice Blast to the equation, it also does more damage as a Superior attack than CB. And Shout (Heavy dmg) does the same damage than CB. Does anyone else feels like they should either add up a little more damage to CB or at least change the power descriptions? |
Those "High", "Extreme" labels haven't made sense since they were first released. There's absolutely no point on going on what they say, they were obsolete when they were written and are a legacy of Jacks phobia of giving players actual figures, in case their fragile little minds imploded.
Real Numbers is available instead and gives you (mostly) the useful information about a power.
Still, it doesn't hurt to "fix" power descriptions accordingly.
EDIT: Have you moved to US servers for good, Carni?
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Originally Posted by False_Fiction_EU
However, if you compare both powers 3 slotted with 3 damage IOs the difference is huge: 264 for CB and 376,1 for Blaze.
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Unless I'm greatly mistaken, Mid's default setting shows you the maximum possible damage a power will do. I don't know for sure, but I suspect the nubers in-game do as well.
The 376 you're seeing is probably taking Blaze's DoT effect into account, making the damage seem much higher than it really is. Blaze has the chance for 4 ticks of DoT, that are usually around 25-30 damage at level 50, so that would make up the difference. However, in practice, Blaze's DoT isn't 100% reliable.
All of the tier 3 heavy hitters are fairly well balanced with each other, and the power description's have always been misleading.
Besides, Rad Blast was originally a Defender only powerset, and for a Defender 264 damage IS Extreme damage
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Yeah, ignore the ingame labels for how much damage a power will do. They're alright for a ballpark idea at most but are often misleading.
Honestly I'm crazy about both powers. Blaze hits absurdly hard, but a tier3 blast that animates fast, does high damage and has a guaranteed stun to boot is just mmmmmm good
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but a tier3 blast that animates fast, does high damage and has a guaranteed stun to boot is just mmmmmm good
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I would not say Cosmic Burst animates fast.
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
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So, I've been toying with a couple combos on mid's (Rad/Fire, Fire/Ice, Rad/Ice, Rad/Elec) and I keep looking at the numbers on CB and Blaze. The first one says its an Extreme damage power, while Blaze is "only" High damage. However, if you compare both powers 3 slotted with 3 damage IOs the difference is huge: 264 for CB and 376,1 for Blaze.
Now, I've been playing mmorpgs long enough to know that Fire is always the most damaging element. What I don't get here is the discrepancy between both powers descriptions and its damage numbers.
Sure, CB has a stun and -def as secondary effects and Fire is supposed to do extra damage. But if you bring Bitter Ice Blast to the equation, it also does more damage as a Superior attack than CB. And Shout (Heavy dmg) does the same damage than CB.
Does anyone else feels like they should either add up a little more damage to CB or at least change the power descriptions?
@False Fiction - Virtue / Defiant
Current projects - [Glaciologist - Ill/Cold Troller] [Cloudshaper - Storm/Dark Def] [Harald Wartooth - Elec/Psi Domi]