over heating problems with GTS 250 card


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got a new PNY gts250 card last week and now it's starting to over heat whenever I play CoX at the highest settings, I've been using the machine for other graphics intensive games/programs which are about equivalent to CoX and it's been working like a dream, but after about 30 mins on max it's over heating so badly it's crashing the whole PC

I can't find any settings to adjust the fan temperature (it's only kicking up to high gear just - as in a matter of seconds - before it crashes) is there anything I'm missing before I just go out and find a new case with better cooling on it? Anybody else had problems with this card? any reason this is only happening on CoX?


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Need info on your computer setup, i.e. what inside it.


 

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Originally Posted by vampyrus_ddg View Post
got a new PNY gts250 card last week and now it's starting to over heat whenever I play CoX at the highest settings, I've been using the machine for other graphics intensive games/programs which are about equivalent to CoX and it's been working like a dream, but after about 30 mins on max it's over heating so badly it's crashing the whole PC

I can't find any settings to adjust the fan temperature (it's only kicking up to high gear just - as in a matter of seconds - before it crashes) is there anything I'm missing before I just go out and find a new case with better cooling on it? Anybody else had problems with this card? any reason this is only happening on CoX?
Well, several things. First, brand. PNY is one of the Nvidia vendors known to have been cutting back on hardware quality in order to sell their cards for a profit. Depending on the fan, and the fan controller they've used, your card may not be able to adequately cool itself.

Second: power. The Geforce GTS 250 is a hungry chip. You need at least a 500 watt power supple: http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/g.../250GTS.aspx#2

Third: Driver support. According to posts on Nvidia's own forum, Nvidia has been pulling back from OpenGL support. No points for guessing what graphics API City of Heroes uses.

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What I suspect is happening is this: You don't have the power supply or the cooling to run the GTS 250 you have.

The card works fine on other games because of Nvidia's focus on DirectX. The card is downclocking itself and working power management profiles correctly.

The card fails on City of Heroes because the power-management isn't cutting in, and it's trying to run at the cards full performance against OpenGL.


 

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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
Well, several things. First, brand. PNY is one of the Nvidia vendors known to have been cutting back on hardware quality in order to sell their cards for a profit. Depending on the fan, and the fan controller they've used, your card may not be able to adequately cool itself.
Thats not good to hear, I stuck with PNY for my new card because they've always worked well for me before

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Second: power. The Geforce GTS 250 is a hungry chip. You need at least a 500 watt power supple: http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/g.../250GTS.aspx#2
My PSU is definitly up to scratch, I believe it's a 650 or 700w and I've got no other significant drains on it (motherboard, 2.6 ghz CPU, 2 gig ram, 2 hard drives, 1 CD drive, monitor and speaker system powered seperatly) I'm not getting a full on cut out of power, just black screen and repeating sound for a sec or 2 followed by no video output, I have to manualy turn power off and boot back up

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Third: Driver support. According to posts on Nvidia's own forum, Nvidia has been pulling back from OpenGL support. No points for guessing what graphics API City of Heroes uses.
Thats not good my drivers the latest version (6.14.12.5721)

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What I suspect is happening is this: You don't have the power supply or the cooling to run the GTS 250 you have.
The cooling is the conclusion I came to, hence thinking about a new case

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The card works fine on other games because of Nvidia's focus on DirectX. The card is downclocking itself and working power management profiles correctly.

The card fails on City of Heroes because the power-management isn't cutting in, and it's trying to run at the cards full performance against OpenGL.
thats a shame, guess I'll get myself a new case and transplant the hardware over and hope it can cope with the heat generated, at the moment I'm having to run at pre ultra mode max settings to stop it overheating to the point it crashes within 30 mins, which is exactly what my old 8500 GT ran it at and the reason I grabbed the new card (although to be fair it's giving me a stupidly smooth FPS on those settings)

thanks for the run down of issues


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try keeping the side of your comp open. and maybe have a small fan blowing air into it for now and see if it helps.


 

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You need to see if PNY offers their own control panel for their cards and if so it will likely have acces to the fan controller. I use evga products and their control panel is excellent for overclocking the card and setting the fan speed. Nvidia also has a System Tools download that is essentially an enhanced control panel with additional settings to tweak over and above the standard control panel you get with the driver. I'm not sure but the RivaTuner software may also offer these capabilities.

Before you start shopping a new case, definately look into one of these softwares and check the fan speed setting. It is very likely set low from the factory. Mine came preset at around 30%, I manually crank it to about 85% when I get ready to play any game. Others I know of just set it at 100% full time but I personally would rather not go that route.