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Question on tohit and -tohit

Kitsune Knight

By Kitsune Knight,
Posted on: 2010-07-14 08:57 in Player Questions

 

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I'm not really sure on how the tohit mechanics work on this game. Do tohit debuffs apply directly to something else's tohit value?

First example: if I'm fighting something that has a tohit value of 100 and I use my Darkest Night, which has a tohit debuff of 28%. Would this mean that whatever I'm fighting now have 72 tohit value instead of 100?

Second example: say I'm fighting the same thing again that has a tohit value of 100 but I use Darkest Night AND Fearsome Stare, which both has a tohit debuff of 28% each for a total of 56% tohit debuff. Would this mean that whatever I'm fighting now have 100 - 56% = 44 tohit value?

I guess what I'm asking is, if I have several tohit debuffs, would all those debuffs add up together first and THEN apply to my target? Or would it they individually apply to my target's CURRENT tohit value...such as, 100 - 28% = 72 and then take that 72 - 28% = 51.84 tohit value?

Also, where do I go to see my current tohit value? Is it in my Combat Attributes?

 

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Originally Posted by SPiNE View Post
I'm not really sure on how the tohit mechanics work on this game. Do tohit debuffs apply directly to something else's tohit value?
Yes. See this article on the Attack Mechanics.

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First example: if I'm fighting something that has a tohit value of 100 and I use my Darkest Night, which has a tohit debuff of 28%. Would this mean that whatever I'm fighting now have 72 tohit value instead of 100?
Yes, although most enemies start with a tohit value of 50, but your scenario is current.

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Second example: say I'm fighting the same thing again that has a tohit value of 100 but I use Darkest Night AND Fearsome Stare, which both has a tohit debuff of 28% each for a total of 56% tohit debuff. Would this mean that whatever I'm fighting now have 100 - 56% = 44 tohit value?
Yes (but again, most enemies have a tohit of 50).

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I guess what I'm asking is, if I have several tohit debuffs, would all those debuffs add up together first and THEN apply to my target? Or would it they individually apply to my target's CURRENT tohit value...such as, 100 - 28% = 72 and then take that 72 - 28% = 51.84 tohit value?
Tohit debuffs really aren't percentages, just straight up modifiers.

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Also, where do I go to see my current tohit value? Is it in my Combat Attributes?
It is, and there's two values associated with it. One is to watch your modifiers, and another (IMO more useful) is to watch the final chance to hit (slightly different, but more important IMO as it factors in both tohit (de)buffs, the target's defense, and your power's accuracy).

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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!

 

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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight View Post
Tohit debuffs really aren't percentages, just straight up modifiers.
Thanks! I was somewhat confused because Mid's showed them as percentages and I wasn't sure.

 

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Originally Posted by WarronPeace View Post
The calculation is somewhat complex. See this page for more info: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
Addition, subtraction, and multiplication are complex? It's a very simple mechanic (for the whole attack mechanic... normal tohit is even easier, as it's just BaseHitChance + ToHitMods).

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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!

 

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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight View Post
Tohit debuffs really aren't percentages, just straight up modifiers.
This may be misleading

ToHit is read as a percentage: 75%
Accuracy is read as a modifier: 1.2x