My DP/Fire's build is a mess. Please help.


Gilia

 

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Hey there, I'm new to using DP/Fire and I'm trying to make a build, but I know I'm gimping myself here. I'd like to try and keep the powers I have chosen, but as far as slotting's concerned, I'm pretty retarded. Need some help, and also, try to keep it within a 2 billion inf. build. If it goes over that amount please don't go over by too much.

I'm looking to go for A.O.E. damage, defense, and slows. I honestly am at a complete loss at how I should be proceeding to slot this guy. Again, please keep the attack powers I've chosen as that is the play style I prefer.

Thanks!

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Matsugae: Level 50 Technology Blaster
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Fire Manipulation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Flame Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dual Wield

  • (A) Curtail Speed - Accuracy/Slow
  • (3) Curtail Speed - Damage/Slow
  • (3) Curtail Speed - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (5) Curtail Speed - Range/Slow
  • (23) Curtail Speed - Endurance/Recharge/Slow
Level 1: Ring of Fire
  • (A) Immobilisation Duration IO
Level 2: Empty Clips
  • (A) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff
  • (5) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff/Recharge
  • (7) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (7) Touch of Lady Grey - Recharge/Endurance
  • (39) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff/Endurance
  • (39) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
Level 4: Combustion
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (11) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (11) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (13) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 6: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 8: Swap Ammo
Level 10: Fire Sword Circle
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (17) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (17) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (19) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (19) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (21) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 12: Bullet Rain
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (21) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (23) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (25) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
  • (37) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
Level 14: Super Jump
  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
Level 16: Build Up
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (27) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (27) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 18: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 20: Health
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  • (29) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
  • (29) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
Level 22: Executioner's Shot
  • (A) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff
  • (31) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff/Recharge
  • (31) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (31) Touch of Lady Grey - Recharge/Endurance
  • (33) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff/Endurance
  • (33) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
Level 24: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
  • (34) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
  • (34) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (34) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (36) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
Level 26: Piercing Rounds
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
  • (37) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 28: Kick
  • (A) Damage Increase IO
Level 30: Tough
  • (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
  • (39) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (40) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
  • (40) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (40) Reactive Armor - Endurance
Level 32: Hail of Bullets
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (42) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (42) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (43) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 35: Burn
  • (A) Eradication - Damage
  • (50) Eradication - Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 38: Hot Feet
  • (A) Curtail Speed - Accuracy/Slow
  • (45) Curtail Speed - Damage/Slow
  • (46) Curtail Speed - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (46) Curtail Speed - Range/Slow
  • (46) Curtail Speed - Endurance/Recharge/Slow
Level 41: Weave
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 44: Bonfire
  • (A) Damage Increase IO
Level 47: Fire Shield
  • (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
  • (48) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (48) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
  • (48) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (50) Reactive Armor - Endurance
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Defiance
Level 6: Ninja Run
Level 8: Chemical Ammunition
Level 8: Cryo Ammunition
Level 8: Incendiary Ammunition
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Set Bonus Totals:
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 15.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 10.6% Defense(Smashing)
  • 10.6% Defense(Lethal)
  • 2.81% Defense(Fire)
  • 2.81% Defense(Cold)
  • 5.63% Defense(Energy)
  • 5.63% Defense(Negative)
  • 13.8% Defense(Melee)
  • 2.81% Defense(Ranged)
  • 5.63% Defense(AoE)
  • 1.8% Max End
  • 47.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 4% Enhancement(RunSpeed)
  • 4% Enhancement(FlySpeed)
  • 67% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 4% Enhancement(JumpHeight)
  • 4% Enhancement(JumpSpeed)
  • 5% FlySpeed
  • 108.4 HP (9%) HitPoints
  • 5% JumpHeight
  • 5% JumpSpeed
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 4.4%
  • MezResist(Stun) 6.6%
  • 12.5% (0.21 End/sec) Recovery
  • 48% (2.41 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 20% ResEffect(FlySpeed)
  • 20% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
  • 20% ResEffect(RunSpeed)
  • 3.15% Resistance(Fire)
  • 3.15% Resistance(Cold)
  • 3.13% Resistance(Toxic)
  • 5% RunSpeed



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How willing are you to bend on these power picks?

I'm playing with the slotting, and I can't figure how to soft cap any defenses. The other problem I'm seeing is you have 2 cones and a bunch of PBAoE. I think it'd be better to drop Empty Clips and Piercing Rounds and pick up Blazing Aura and Consume.

Another thing to consider is to replace your APP with Ice, and you might have a shot at soft capping Smashing/Lethal defense.


@Gilia1
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Posted

Well, in retrospect as to my build, I've seen worse on the forums, but I'm pretty much going for an A.O.E machine which is why I picked all the A.O.E./cone powers.

I wouldn't mind seeing what the build would look like with Empty Clips and Piercing Rounds taken out and the two fire melee powers added in.

I'm kinda set with taking Fire Mastery because I want to see what it's like to have Rise Of The Phoenix. I would be interested to see what Ice or Electric Mastery would look like though.

Mind giving me a Mids run down with a data chunk to load into my copy of Mids?

Thank you for the help by the way. The A.T.'s all play and slot so differently that it's hard to get a handle on a build unless I've played it for awhile, and frankly, I don't have as much time to invest in this game as I once had to figure out how to slot new power sets I haven't played before.

And please, please, please, go easy on the purples. I can manage to get about 1 to 1.5 billion together for a build, but any more than that is going to take way too much time to earn... Unless you feel like donating to a hero in need?


 

Posted

Like Gilia said, I highly recommend considering the Ice Epic to softcap Smashing/Lethal defence. However, I understand if you want to stick with Fire for RotP

So I had a go at your build, only thing I did power choices wise was swap Burn for Maneuvers. I think you'll be fine personally hopping in and out of mobs to line up Empty Clips.

For the build, I got you 34% Melee defence so you can pop a purple to softcap, and 21% ranged which isn't great but should be noticeable. The build has 65% recharge which should be good for getting HoB and all your AoEs back quicker. I would think about maybe putting Hasten is aswell (maybe for ES? If you're not concerned about ST damage).

Hope this helps:

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Thanks so much Tux, that is so much better than the current build I have worked out. I might consider Ice Mastery in the end, but the one you made would be just as fine.'

Thanks again!


 

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IMO if you want to stick with the dp/fire/fire concept and still hit softcap, you could try as a hover blaster, and then aim for softcapping ranged def as opposed to S/L.

I've been tinkering around with a build for the last few months, trying to get a decent dmg + recharge rate as well as having softcap def, and this is what I came up with:

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Kerroscene: Level 50 Mutation Blaster
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Fire Manipulation
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Flame Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Pistols -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Ring of Fire -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 2: Fire Sword -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mako-Dam%(17)
Level 4: Dual Wield -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21)
Level 6: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 8: Swap Ammo
Level 10: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A), Zephyr-ResKB(23), LkGmblr-Rchg+(23)
Level 12: Bullet Rain -- ExStrk-Dmg/KB(A), ExStrk-Acc/KB(25), ExStrk-Dam%(25), Posi-Acc/Dmg(27), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-ResKB(29)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(29)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(31), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(34), P'Shift-End%(34)
Level 22: Fire Sword Circle -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(37), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(39)
Level 26: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Consume -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(40), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(40), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(42), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(42)
Level 30: Suppressive Fire -- BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(42), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- ExStrk-Dmg/KB(A), ExStrk-Acc/KB(43), ExStrk-Dam%(45), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(45), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 35: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 38: Tough -- HO:Ribo(A)
Level 41: Bonfire -- ExStrk-Dmg/KB(A), ExStrk-Acc/KB(46), ExStrk-Dam%(46)
Level 44: Fire Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(48), HO:Ribo(48)
Level 47: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48), HO:Cyto(50)
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(50), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 6: Ninja Run
Level 8: Chemical Ammunition
Level 8: Cryo Ammunition
Level 8: Incendiary Ammunition



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