Fury doesn't work off getting hit, it works off getting attacked, no matter if the attack hits or misses.
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Originally Posted by ICBM
I'm looking to make a new brute, my first one 50 and I was thinking claws/sr for quick kills. My question is with fury working off getting hit, isn't SR counter productive for a brute?
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Seriously - as he said. The fury builds off of getting attacked rather than getting hit, so from a technical standpoint, defense is generally better than resistance for a brute.
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Originally Posted by Wiggz
... so from a technical standpoint, defense is generally better than resistance for a brute.
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I don't agree with this statement in the least. Saying one is (generally) better than the other isn't true. It really boils down to personal preference and playstyle. I can think of a number of situations in which resistance > defense. ITF anyone?
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Originally Posted by magikwand
I don't agree with this statement in the least. Saying one is (generally) better than the other isn't true. It really boils down to personal preference and playstyle. I can think of a number of situations in which resistance > defense. ITF anyone?
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Defense is still better than resistance....in the ITF it's your DDR that makes you better with resistance. SR has 95% DDR. Safe as can be.
My invul has 46% def with ONE baddy inside invince. Cascade failure only starts to take effect after 45%, but with that many around me, I start in the 60's.
Def>Res any day
Low DDR<Res when against -def stacking fools.
Defense is better than resistance. Except for all the times that it isn't. OP, your question is answered:
Fury builds off attacking and being attacked, regardless of whether the attacks find their target.
As I mentioned in the thread seeking the exact equation for fury generation, I can build fury on a dm brute using nothing but hasten, smite, brawl and the origin temp power to 87% fury on a target that can't fight back. You can also go sit in an aggro cap's worth of enemies and get up there without attacking any of them as long as they have enough attacks to cycle through for you.
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Except that DDR doesn't mean that your defense can't be debuffed. DDR means it may just take longer for your defense to be debuffed, but it can still happen.|
Originally Posted by LygerZero
ITF for your argument =fail.
Defense is still better than resistance....in the ITF it's your DDR that makes you better with resistance. SR has 95% DDR. Safe as can be. My invul has 46% def with ONE baddy inside invince. Cascade failure only starts to take effect after 45%, but with that many around me, I start in the 60's. Def>Res any day Low DDR<Res when against -def stacking fools. |
And don't make it sound like capped defense on a SR means you will never get hit. There is still always a chance for enemies to hit you; regardless of how seemingly perfect your defense may be. Roll a few bad RNG hits, and you will drop like a fly.
Another example of defense not being the best is Television farm. Take your /SR or /SD brute into this farm and see how well you fare compared to a /FA or /WP. Any high ACC enemy is going to slice through you like a stick of butter if you are solely defense based.
Don't get me wrong- I am not saying defense is subpar. I am just saying that making a statement that Def> Res is not accurate. I love my defense based brutes every bit as much as my res based or mixed bag brutes. I really just think it is more about playstyle and preference than concrete fact.
Besides, that wasn't even part of the original question from the OP.
It is just some opinion that got plugged in along the way.
Words to the wise aren't necessary- it's the stupid ones that need them.
"You're right...I forgot...being constantly at or the near the damage cap is a big turn off. Definitely not worth it."
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Defense is better than resistance. Except for all the times that it isn't.
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To the OP: Claws/SR should be good, though you may learn to really hate SR at a few points in your character's life - You won't have your full Defense values OR your full Defense Debuff Resistance until later on.
Another worthwhile combo for easy levelling is Claws/WP. Willpower gets excellent Regen, good Resists (even better if you add Tough), and with a few pool picks added in, can get 20%-ish defense to all, and even higher values once you start dabbling in sets. If you do go for sets to boost WP, I recommend going the typed defense (Smashing/Lethal, Fice/Cold, etc), rather than positional (Melee, Ranged, AoE).
@Roderick
I'm looking to make a new brute, my first one 50 and I was thinking claws/sr for quick kills. My question is with fury working off getting hit, isn't SR counter productive for a brute?
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