Riot Control... Would you play this?


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Originally Posted by Golden_Pie View Post
I think it's a great idea, kinda matches up nicely with MM Thugs too...

I would do it something like this...


Dominator - Riot Assault (All shot from a Rifle)

1. Burst - Ranged (Single Target) -Def
2. Pummel - Melee, High DMG (Single Target) Stun
3. Slug - Ranged (Single Target) KD
4. Heavy Burst - Ranged (Cone) -Def
5. Swap Ammo
6. Venom Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AOE) -Res
7. Bayonet - Melee, Superior DMG (Single Target)
8. Sniper Rifle - Sniper, Extreme DMG (Single Target)
9. Hollow Point - Ranged High DMG (Single Target +DOT like blaze for bleed damage) range 50 ft
I like that set up...

Does any one think that it would be better if all the grenades are throw from the hand and not shot from a gun?


 

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Originally Posted by Mod_Noc View Post
I like that set up... 

Does any one think that it would be better if all the grenades are throw from the hand and not shot from a gun?
I would say it would be better to be rifle shot. That reduces redraw issues. One of the things I hate about the plant control and assault sets are that though they naturally go together you are still forced to redraw for the assault set.

Pepper Spray should be a short ranged cone. It would also be a -perception, -to-hit, with maybe a stun

Tear Gas would be a -perception, -to-hit, with a fear


 

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I'd play the set. It looks like it would be a lot of fun.


Malakim

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Current set up.

Controller/Dominator - Riot Control (All shot from a Rifle)



1. Bola Grenade – Ranged (Single Target), Foe Immobilize
2. Tear Gas – Ranged (Single Target), Foe Hold
3. Wide Area Web Grenade – Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe Immobilize
5. Sleep Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AoE), Sleep
4. Smoke Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -Perception, -To-Hit
6. Flash Bang- (PBAoE), Foe Stun
7. Pepper Spray - Ranged (Cone), Choke (Hold)
8. Riot Foam – Ranged (Location AoE), -Fly, -Jump, -SPD
9. Summon Robot – Summon Backup Robot
Dominator - Riot Assault (All shot from a Rifle)


1. Burst - Ranged (Single Target) -Def
2. Pummel - Melee, High DMG (Single Target) Stun
3. Slug - Ranged (Single Target) KD
4. Heavy Burst - Ranged (Cone) -Def
5. Swap Ammo
6. Venom Grenade - Ranged (Targeted AOE) -Res
7. Bayonet - Melee, Superior DMG (Single Target)
8. Sniper Rifle - Sniper, Extreme DMG (Single Target)
9. Hollow Point - Ranged High DMG (Single Target +DOT like blaze for bleed damage) range 50 ft


 

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I honestly think both Controllers and Dominators need a "gadgets" Control set, and a gun-based Assault sets for Dominators is a necessity for the Natural, non-powered villains (and Preatorians, come GR) too.

Personally, I think I would go more with a sort of glue gun, and then a combination of martial arts kicks and pistols for the Secondary. It introduces redraw, but then there would be redraw with any combination BUT Riot Control/Assault Rifle anyway. Riot Control being grenades and other weapons that require limited redraw would be more in keeping with Devices and Traps.

That doesn't mean I would be opposed to the set being fired from the Super Soaker, I just think it's a conceptual stretch. Plus, there could eventually be a sort of Control Archery to pair with Trick Arrow, which would use the bow as the unified launch system.

Ultimately, though, I think the reason I am posting here is to say that Riot Control is still the perfect name for the set, no matter how it is set up.


 

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Would this be a better secondary?

Pistol Assault


1. Pistols - Ranged, Minor DMG(Lethal/Special)
2. Pistol Whip – Melee, Moderate DMG(Smash), Foe Stun (Backhand with gun in hand)
3. Dual Wield - Ranged, Moderate DMG(Lethal/Special), Foe Knockback/Special
4. Empty Clips - Ranged (Cone), Moderate DMG(Lethal/Special), Knockback/Special
5. Swap Ammo - Change Secondary Damage/Effects
6. Foot Sweep - PBAoE, Moderate DMG(Smash), Foe Knockdown (Same animation ad Dragons tail)
7. Double Barrel - Melee High DMG(Smash), Foe -Recharge, -SPD, Knockback (Same animation as Ripper except with guns)
8. Piercing Rounds - Narrow Ranged, High DMG(Lethal/Special), Foes -Res(All)/Special
9. Executioner's Shot - Close, High DMG(Lethal/Special), Foe Knockback/Special




 

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I would like to see more powers like DP's Piercing Rounds. Long, very very narrow cone, that can hit 3 targets so it seems like you're piercing through multiple enemies lined up. I think something like that in rifle form would work out nicely for this proposed set.


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I would like to see more powers like DP's Piercing Rounds. Long, very very narrow cone, that can hit 3 targets so it seems like you're piercing through multiple enemies lined up. I think something like that in rifle form would work out nicely for this proposed set.
I put Piercing Rounds back in there. I was thinking after seeing the movie Avatar and seen the big blue people beat the hell out of the human with the Bows, it made me realize that they can turn Archery into an assault set with Bow Melee. Trick Arrow can be converted to a Primary Control set. They are so many great ideas out there that can be created for a devices based set that can be played as a Natural or even a Tech theme for Doms and Trollers.


 

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I honestly think it would be more likely to see Swap Ammo with a pistol set than with Assault Rifle. Outside of that, yeah, except for the need to redraw weapons between the Primary and Secondary it's probably just as good as an Assault Set.

It seems kind of redundant to have three different sets for a rifle with martial arts, pistols with martial arts, and a bow with martial arts, but that's probably how it would end up having to be. Assuming the devs actually take the time to make all three sets.


 

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I would rather see Grenade Launcher Control and Gatling gun Assault.


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I would rather see Grenade Launcher Control and Gatling gun Assault.
What kind of melee could you do with a Gatling Gun for Gatling Assault...lol



I am a big guy and I would even have trouble swinging this around to pistol whip someone...


 

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I could see a Grenade Launcher Control or just a weapon selection.


 

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I was in the military a few years ago and I remember training on the use of a bayonet. We had to learn how to use it in close combat and we even did an obstacle course with our rifle with bayonets attached and had to Slash the dummy from shoulder to opposite hip at an angle, Stab with all our force behind it, slice the where the stomach would be on the dummy, and even had to learn how deliver a powerful butt stroke with the buttstock of our weapon. This is why I beieve that Rifle Assault would be the perfect combo of range and melee for a Dominator.

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What kind of melee could you do with a Gatling Gun for Gatling Assault...lol

I am a big guy and I would even have trouble swinging this around to pistol whip someone...

Well you could drop it on there foot for a small mag 2 stun.


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well you could drop it on there foot for a small mag 2 stun.
lmao...



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