2 things (Client lock up & ultra-mode PC guide request)
By
Back_Blast,
Posted on: 2010-06-21 15:12 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
You probably already know what I'm going to say.
In the desktop market, as of right now, if you buy an Nvidia card: You. Are. Getting. Ripped. Off.
No. The Geforce 200 Series at their available price-points cannot hold a candle to the performance or price of the Radeon 4000 series cards, much less the Radeon 5000 series cards.
The Geforce 400 series at their available price-points can match the high end RadeonHD 5800 series for performance... they just can't do it for price, power consumption, or heat output.
If you want to run Ultra Mode at 1920*1200 with all Ultra-Mode settings (sans Ambient Occlusion) maxed, the RadeonHD 5770 is your starting point at what you want to buy.
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It sounds like there's something wrong in your machine; while you aren't running a top end computer it's plenty to run the game just fine... at your resolution you may well be able to activate some limited Ultra Mode shinies. The fact that it's locking up on you isn't at all right.|
Originally Posted by Durakken
ok so I've gotten rather annoyed and tried to turn off everything and then slowly bring it back up... and that has failed.
My settings are bottomed out and I am experiencing the following... Every 5-30 mins my computer/client will completely lock up and stay there...and the one time I let it go for long crashed my system. If I tab out and in, as soon as the CPU drops a little (from what i can tell) the game will then unfreeze. Leaving it alone will however result in a jump to the current point that the animation should be in and remain frozen. These are jumps every 1-2 minutes. and again eventually results in a system crash. I've checked my PC, lowered my settings, etc. The Game is eating 70-100% of my CPU and depending on where I am running between 60 and 250 FPS. I've had the game lock up when the FPS was well over 100. I'm running 1400x900 full screen res E4600 2.4 GHz Intel core 2 duo GeForce 8800 GS with 384MB RAM 4GB RAM (in the machine) and running on Windows XP (32-bit... I forget if there is a 64-bit ver) |
I'm not an expert, but a few things I would check would be:
- Update your video drivers... this is kind of a shot in the dark but worth a try
- Try verifying all files on COH
- Check Device Manager (control panel/system/device manager) to see if anything has a red x next to it.
- Defrag your drives, particularly the drive COH is on.
- Run Memtest to check out your RAM... a bad stick can cause interesting problems. The download gets you an .iso you can burn a bootable CDROM disk from. I'd say this is unlikely to be your problem, but I've had a bad RAM stick cause all kinds of really weird intermittent problems before I tracked it down.
COH has just been murdered by NCSoft. http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
Lets get some more info first, HijackThis, and CoHHelper.
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Call Me, none of those are the problem. I started having problem when i17 launched and it got worse when I turned down graphics. Nothing else gives me problems. It is specifically the CoH client and it specifically started happening with i17.
but i do need to defrag my PC HDDs...just got to find a time to do it. And I'd rather not have to reinstall CoH unless I have to... it's like a 4-8 hour process...
Eislor,
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please explain... I don't follow that type of stuff. I know there are fan boys for both brands...|
Originally Posted by je_saist
You probably already know what I'm going to say.
In the desktop market, as of right now, if you buy an Nvidia card: You. Are. Getting. Ripped. Off. No. The Geforce 200 Series at their available price-points cannot hold a candle to the performance or price of the Radeon 4000 series cards, much less the Radeon 5000 series cards. The Geforce 400 series at their available price-points can match the high end RadeonHD 5800 series for performance... they just can't do it for price, power consumption, or heat output. If you want to run Ultra Mode at 1920*1200 with all Ultra-Mode settings (sans Ambient Occlusion) maxed, the RadeonHD 5770 is your starting point at what you want to buy. |
I don't see myself getting a higher res screen but I dunno. I just need max on 1400x900... also why sans occlusion, not that it matters, cuz i don't see much difference between having it on and max settings.
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What he's talking about is that Nvidia is worse than ATI from a price/performance outlook. Basically for what you'd pay for a given Nvidia card you could get a higher performing ATI card.|
Originally Posted by Durakken
please explain... I don't follow that type of stuff. I know there are fan boys for both brands...
I don't see myself getting a higher res screen but I dunno. I just need max on 1400x900... also why sans occlusion, not that it matters, cuz i don't see much difference between having it on and max settings. |
The Nvidia cards still do the job, and the higher end ones perform quite nicely... they're just priced higher than comparable ATI cards. They also tend to eat more power and put out more heat. With that said my main rig does have an Nvidia 275GTX in it and it works quite nicely. Yes, in today's market I could get a faster ATI for the money the 275 costs but when I bought it things were a bit closer together. If I were buying today I probably would go with an ATI.
COH has just been murdered by NCSoft. http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
hrmmm seems that I want to improve my system too much ^.^
I'm looking at...
GA-EP45T-USB3P LGA 775 P45 ATX Motherboard
Core 2 Quad Processor Q9300
Windows 7 Professional
for new gfx card need a good card between $100-200 with a gig of RAM... can't really figure out whats the best in that range, but seems the that that wouldn't give a significant upgrade to the 8800GS as it seems the 9800 GTX which is supposedly just slightly better is slightly worse than the card i could find in that price range. The rest of the parts I can canobalize from my current PC if needed...
edit: ^.^ seems i can get a 5770 within my price range >.> though is that a worthwhile upgrade to get right now? Is the occlusion thing due to the card or there being a problem with the code?
that seems like a nice build for $6-700 not counting RAM that I'll buy over time... A nice 17GB RAM system would be awesome ^.^
So I tried a few things...
ran a lvl 30 char on a dif server = same problem.
ran a lvl 1 char on test server (ie dif client) and had no problems.
ran a lvl 30 char on test server (ie dif client) and had no problem.
granted still have probs with relatively low FPS due to settings now, but other than that seems it's something in the client...
that being the case...think doing a quick install will be a problem? Or should I do a complete fresh install and sit through 8 hours of DLing...
Well if it is a problem in the client files, you could try deleting the checksum file from your CoH directory. That will force the updater to re-verify all your files and hopefully fix any that are buggy. It will take some time but not as much as a fresh download.
A 5770 is a fine card. Hardly top of the line for sure now but not a bad thing to get for CoH. Just up to your budget. My definite suggestion on parts is to check reviews of any bits you're considering. There's plenty of good review sites out there. Father Xmas also has some good build guides in his sig that could prove useful to you as well.
And the ATI FSAA+occlusion issues are code and driver problems from what I understand. Presumably they will be fixed sometime. But if you don't care about occlusion, then it's not worth worrying over.
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ok so I've gotten rather annoyed and tried to turn off everything and then slowly bring it back up... and that has failed.
My settings are bottomed out and I am experiencing the following...
Every 5-30 mins my computer/client will completely lock up and stay there...and the one time I let it go for long crashed my system.
If I tab out and in, as soon as the CPU drops a little (from what i can tell) the game will then unfreeze.
Leaving it alone will however result in a jump to the current point that the animation should be in and remain frozen. These are jumps every 1-2 minutes. and again eventually results in a system crash.
I've checked my PC, lowered my settings, etc. The Game is eating 70-100% of my CPU and depending on where I am running between 60 and 250 FPS. I've had the game lock up when the FPS was well over 100.
I'm running
1400x900 full screen res
E4600 2.4 GHz Intel core 2 duo
GeForce 8800 GS with 384MB RAM
4GB RAM (in the machine)
and running on Windows XP (32-bit... I forget if there is a 64-bit ver)
I'm looking to upgrade my PC...
I plan on getting win7 professional 64-bit I haven't decided on making a whole new PC yet, but I would find it extremely useful to have a guide for a creating a PC for ultra mode, medium and max settings...
and...should I get a Geforce 200, or 400? is the 200 worth it?