Help for a PvE Bots/Traps build?


anonymoose

 

Posted

I'm retooling my first character, a Robotics/Traps MM; I always liked the combo, but being a child of I6/I7 I can barely play her anymore. So, I'm trying to rebuild her, starting with a respec which I've already done. I intended to just throw it together haphazardly, but I recently figured that isn't the best idea. So, I'm asking here for help: Here's what I've got so far, heavily under construction.

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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Traps
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Battle Drones

  • (A) Damage Increase IO
  • (3) Accuracy IO
  • (3) Damage Increase IO
  • (5) Damage Increase IO
  • (5) Empty
  • (7) Empty
Level 1: Web Grenade
  • (A) Empty
  • (7) Empty
Level 2: Caltrops
  • (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow
  • (9) Slow IO
  • (9) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 4: Triage Beacon
  • (A) Healing IO
  • (11) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  • (11) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
  • (13) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
  • (13) Empty
  • (15) Empty
Level 6: Equip Robot
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (15) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 8: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Empty
  • (17) Empty
Level 10: Acid Mortar
  • (A) Accuracy IO
  • (17) Accuracy IO
  • (19) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (19) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (21) Damage Increase IO
  • (21) Damage Increase IO
Level 12: Protector Bots
  • (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
  • (23) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
  • (23) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (25) Blood Mandate - Damage
  • (25) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
  • (27) Healing IO
Level 14: Super Jump
  • (A) Jumping IO
  • (27) Jumping IO
Level 16: Force Field Generator
  • (A) Defense Buff IO
  • (29) Defense Buff IO
  • (29) Defense Buff IO
  • (31) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (31) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (31) Empty
Level 18: Hurdle
  • (A) Empty
  • (33) Empty
Level 20: Poison Trap
  • (A) Hold Duration IO
  • (33) Hold Duration IO
  • (33) Hold Duration IO
  • (34) Hold Duration IO
  • (34) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (34) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 22: Health
  • (A) Empty
  • (36) Empty
Level 24: Stamina
  • (A) Empty
  • (36) Empty
Level 26: Assault Bot
  • (A) Accuracy IO
  • (36) Damage Increase IO
  • (37) Knockback Distance IO
  • (37) Damage Increase IO
  • (37) Damage Increase IO
  • (39) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 28: Seeker Drones
  • (A) Accuracy IO
  • (39) To Hit Debuff IO
  • (39) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff
  • (40) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (40) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (40) Damage Increase IO
Level 30: Acrobatics
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (42) Empty
Level 32: Upgrade Robot
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (42) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 35: Trip Mine
  • (A) Accuracy IO
  • (42) Damage Increase IO
  • (43) Damage Increase IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
  • (45) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 38: Maneuvers
  • (A) Defense Buff IO
  • (45) Defense Buff IO
  • (45) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 41: Dark Embrace
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (46) Resist Damage IO
  • (48) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 44: Oppressive Gloom
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (46) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (46) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (48) Empty
Level 47: Soul Storm
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (48) Hold Duration IO
  • (50) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 49: Pulse Rifle Burst
  • (A) Accuracy IO
  • (50) Damage Increase IO
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Supremacy


Pretty much the only things I'm sure of are the Blood Mandate in the Protector Bots, and the Numina's Convalescence in Triage Beacon, since I'm absolutely sure they are good ideas.

Money is not an item; I'm intending this to be a long-term project, and my Brute has plenty of money I can transfer over. So HOs and purple sets are fair game, as are PvP sets I suppose if they benefit the build.


 

Posted

Looks OK, although my own /Traps build is pretty low-level still.

I'd question the need for Triage Beacon. I think Aid Other might be more useful. Those who have taken /Traps to the highest levels might want to debate that.

Also, Acrobatics and Pulse Rifle Burst might be replaced with something else. However, this may come down to personal preference. If you don't like getting tossed around, and want a gun to shoot, well heck, it's about fun more than anything else.

Finally, Black Scorpion and his shield will stack with the Def from your FFG and Prot Bots. And his Web Envelope will keep most mobs in the Assault Bot's burn patches longer. Just something to think about.


 

Posted

I'm mostly looking for slotting help. Acrobatics and Pulse Rifle Burst are used, indeed, for not getting knocked around and actually having some way to defend myself that isn't Poison Trap-Trip Mine. Triage Beacon is very useful, though gets to be a bit of a hassle sometimes.

The APP has three reasons. One, it fits the character better than the other three. Two, Oppressive Gloom is very useful when setting up traps. Three, I just love the Soul Storm animation.


 

Posted

Check out my bots/traps guide in my sig. At the end of the thread it has a build that should be able to solo any content solo at +4 (my setting) and probably +8 as long as you eat all the insperations you are getting.


Bots/Traps Guide for I19.5
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Posted

Small thing, but I wouldn't bother with the recharge reductions in the upgrade powers. They already recharge far faster than you should ever need to use them, though I know this is different than they used to be. If you're going to double-slot them, I'd just do two EndRedux, since they do take a hefty chunk of blue.

Edit: Also, I personally swear by Aid Other on my Bots/FF. It's not amazing, but it will certainly help keep your bots alive when they take one hit through your bubble and are near death.


 

Posted

I have to chime in as well for grabbing Aid Other. A the advantage a single target heal gives to any Mastermind can not be overstated! And between yourself and the heal in your Prot Bots, keeping your 'bots alive is much easier.

Personally, I ran with taking the Pulse Rifle Burst at level 4, and used a respec in the early 30s to replace it with the Triage Beacon. Yes, I have both Aid Other and the Triage Beacon - the Beacon is very situational, but one such situation - tackling a particularly hard target like an EB or higher - is actually very regular in CoV. There, you aren't likely to be running around alot, and boosting the regen of all your pets (and yourself) can make recovering from a particularly strong attack much easier.


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Posted

Those aren't actually the levels where I took the powers and enhancements, I just slapped together the build in Mid's from how it looks as I have it at level 50.

Still, thanks for all the help, everyone. I'm probably going to combine Mephe's build into mine.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ein_Dose View Post
I'm mostly looking for slotting help. Acrobatics and Pulse Rifle Burst are used, indeed, for not getting knocked around
You could put a -KB IO in FFG or Maneuvers for relatively cheap.

A matter of taste but hasten+SS is great on /traps.


 

Posted

Its a defense cap build. If you do not understand the importance of defense cap or what it is just say so. Some will say forget defense cap and do resistance or a mix of both. I am not gonna bother debating that. That is something you have to decide on your own. If you don't understand why some powers are picked, again by all means ask.

If your not looking at IOs then go to the 2nd build with just SO's. If your gonna do SOs. Then I think your gonna be stuck pretty much in that build.

Here is another thread about 10 post down from yours with a similar title asking the exact same thing. If you need to know why just go to the link and read what I posted. Its much easier

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...=226296&page=2

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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Traps
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Battle Drones

  • (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
  • (3) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
  • (9) Blood Mandate - Damage
Level 1: Web Grenade
  • (A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
Level 2: Caltrops
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (9) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
  • (11) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (17) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 4: Triage Beacon
  • (A) Harmonized Healing - Heal/Recharge
  • (7) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
  • (7) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
  • (50) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Recharge
Level 6: Equip Robot
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 8: Kick
  • (A) Accuracy IO
Level 10: Acid Mortar
  • (A) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff
  • (11) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
  • (23) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
  • (33) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (39) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
Level 12: Protector Bots
  • (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
  • (13) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
  • (13) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
  • (40) Blood Mandate - Damage
Level 14: Tough
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (15) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
  • (19) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge
  • (21) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (21) Aegis - Resistance
Level 16: Force Field Generator
  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (17) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (34) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (40) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 18: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 20: Poison Trap
  • (A) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (42) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (42) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge
Level 22: Weave
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
Level 24: Health
  • (A) Healing IO
  • (25) Healing IO
  • (25) Healing IO
Level 26: Stamina
  • (A) Endurance Modification IO
  • (27) Endurance Modification IO
  • (27) Endurance Modification IO
Level 28: Seeker Drones
  • (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff
  • (29) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff
  • (29) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (31) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
  • (31) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (31) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
Level 30: Provoke
  • (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
  • (33) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (33) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
  • (46) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
  • (48) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range
Level 32: Repair
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 35: Trip Mine
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
  • (37) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
Level 38: Assault Bot
  • (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (42) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (43) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
  • (48) Blood Mandate - Damage
Level 41: Scorpion Shield
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (48) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
Level 44: Web Envelope
  • (A) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (45) Trap of the Hunter - Endurance/Immobilize
  • (45) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (45) Trap of the Hunter - Immobilize/Accuracy
  • (46) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
  • (46) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 47: Upgrade Robot
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 49: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 6: Ninja Run



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SO only build

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Level 50 Science Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Traps
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Battle Drones
  • (A) Accuracy
  • (3) Accuracy
  • (3) Accuracy
  • (5) Damage Increase
  • (5) Damage Increase
  • (7) Damage Increase
Level 1: Web Grenade
  • (A) Accuracy
Level 2: Caltrops
  • (A) Recharge Reduction
  • (7) Recharge Reduction
  • (11) Slow
  • (11) Slow
Level 4: Triage Beacon
  • (A) Healing
  • (39) Healing
  • (40) Healing
  • (40) Recharge Reduction
  • (40) Recharge Reduction
Level 6: Equip Robot
  • (A) Endurance Reduction
Level 8: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction
  • (9) Recharge Reduction
  • (9) Recharge Reduction
Level 10: Acid Mortar
  • (A) Defense Debuff
  • (34) Defense Debuff
  • (34) Defense Debuff
  • (37) Accuracy
  • (37) Recharge Reduction
Level 12: Protector Bots
  • (A) Accuracy
  • (13) Accuracy
  • (13) Accuracy
  • (15) Damage Increase
  • (15) Damage Increase
  • (17) Damage Increase
Level 14: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed
Level 16: Force Field Generator
  • (A) Defense Buff
  • (17) Defense Buff
  • (19) Defense Buff
  • (21) Defense Buff
  • (21) Defense Buff
  • (34) Defense Buff
Level 18: Repair
  • (A) Recharge Reduction
  • (19) Recharge Reduction
Level 20: Poison Trap
  • (A) Hold Duration
  • (42) Hold Duration
  • (42) Hold Duration
  • (42) Recharge Reduction
Level 22: Health
  • (A) Healing
  • (23) Healing
  • (23) Healing
Level 24: Stamina
  • (A) Endurance Modification
  • (25) Endurance Modification
  • (25) Endurance Modification
Level 26: Assault Bot
  • (A) Accuracy
  • (27) Accuracy
  • (27) Accuracy
  • (29) Damage Increase
  • (29) Damage Increase
  • (31) Damage Increase
Level 28: Seeker Drones
  • (A) Recharge Reduction
  • (46) Disorient Duration
Level 30: Maneuvers
  • (A) Defense Buff
  • (31) Defense Buff
  • (31) Defense Buff
  • (33) Defense Buff
  • (33) Defense Buff
  • (33) Endurance Reduction
Level 32: Upgrade Robot
  • (A) Endurance Reduction
Level 35: Trip Mine
  • (A) Damage Increase
  • (36) Damage Increase
  • (36) Damage Increase
  • (36) Damage Increase
  • (37) Recharge Reduction
Level 38: Tactics
  • (A) To Hit Buff
  • (39) To Hit Buff
  • (39) Endurance Reduction
Level 41: Web Envelope
  • (A) Accuracy
  • (43) Immobilisation Duration
  • (43) Immobilisation Duration
  • (43) Immobilisation Duration
  • (46) Accuracy
Level 44: Scorpion Shield
  • (A) Defense Buff
  • (45) Defense Buff
  • (45) Defense Buff
  • (45) Defense Buff
  • (46) Endurance Reduction
Level 47: Aid Other
  • (A) Healing
  • (48) Healing
  • (48) Recharge Reduction
  • (48) Interrupt Reduction
Level 49: Aid Self
  • (A) Healing
  • (50) Healing
  • (50) Recharge Reduction
  • (50) Interrupt Reduction
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Ninja Run



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1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives