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Recharge or Defense?

GavinRuneblade

By GavinRuneblade,
Posted on: 2010-06-09 13:25 in Brutes

 

Posted

I have a lvl 35 SS/Fire brute, and I want to start getting him slotted out. The only problem is that I am still undecided on whether I want to give him a lot of +rech bonuses, or +defense bonuses. I have heard valid arguments for both, saying rech will help with healing flames and with footstomp's KD mitigation. Then there's the idea that a resistance set with ~30 def is quite hard to kill.

If anyone has advice on which will be better to build towards, I would greatly appreciate it.

 

Posted

My solution was to do both. Aim for either S/L or Melee defense of 30+, and then pack as much recharge as you can.

"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.

 

Posted

I would go for both, with a slight edge going towards recharge. Both are critical to the success of a good /FA, but healing flames is the jewel of this set. Defense debuffs won't be resisted late game at all due to /FA having a native DDR of 0. Recharge debuffs will have a hope of resistance with the new Temperature protection.

If your resists are decent to start, you can do wondrous things with fast recharging healing flames. If you pool all of your effort in +def, you might find that you are one spawn of Cimerorans away from a fast death.

With that said, you will probably be able to do both comfortably. If I am not off my rocker, a lot of sets will give both +def and +recharge.

Words to the wise aren't necessary- it's the stupid ones that need them.

"You're right...I forgot...being constantly at or the near the damage cap is a big turn off. Definitely not worth it."
- Vitality

 

Posted

I tried setting up for both, and this is what I got. 27 to s/l and about 29 to melee. Recharge is decent, but nothing to brag about. I had to take off a KB protection IO in tough and in CJ to mae this one work. If anyone wants to tweak it or comment on some helpful changes, please go ahead. Keep in mind I don't plan on spending billions for any purple sets or pvp sets, and It will be a while before I can afford to slot any kinetic combat IOs with their current villain side prices.


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[color:#B3CAF7]Level 50 Magic Brute[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Primary Power Set: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Super Strength[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Secondary Power Set: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Fiery Aura[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Leaping[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Fitness[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Fighting[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Power Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Speed[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Ancillary Pool: [/color][color:#B3CAF7]Mu Mastery[/color]

[color:#489AFF]Villain Profile:[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Punch[/color]

  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Smashing Haymaker - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage[/color]
  • (39) [color:#7AA4EF]Smashing Haymaker - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance[/color]
  • (39) [color:#7AA4EF]Smashing Haymaker - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (39) [color:#7AA4EF]Smashing Haymaker - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (40) [color:#7AA4EF]Mako's Bite - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Fire Shield[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance[/color]
  • (3) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Recharge[/color]
  • (3) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (5) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 2:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Blazing Aura[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Cleaving Blow - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage[/color]
  • (5) [color:#7AA4EF]Cleaving Blow - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance[/color]
  • (7) [color:#7AA4EF]Eradication - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (7) [color:#7AA4EF]Eradication - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Chance for Energy Damage[/color]
  • (9) [color:#7AA4EF]Multi Strike - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Endurance[/color]
  • (9) [color:#7AA4EF]Multi Strike - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 4:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Healing Flames[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal/Endurance[/color]
  • (11) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (13) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal/Recharge[/color]
  • (13) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Heal[/color]
  • (15) [color:#7AA4EF]Doctored Wounds - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 6:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Haymaker[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance[/color]
  • (15) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (19) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (21) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color]
  • (21) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 8:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Knockout Blow[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance[/color]
  • (36) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (37) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (37) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color]
  • (37) [color:#7AA4EF]Crushing Impact - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 10:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Combat Jumping[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Luck of the Gambler - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Recharge Speed[/color]
  • (11) [color:#7AA4EF]Karma - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Knockback Protection[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 12:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Swift[/color]
  • (A) [color:#8BAFF1]Run Speed[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 14:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Super Jump[/color]
  • (A) [color:#8BAFF1]Jumping[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 16:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Plasma Shield[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance[/color]
  • (17) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Recharge[/color]
  • (17) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (19) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 18:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Rage[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]To Hit Buff[/color]
  • (40) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]To Hit Buff/Recharge[/color]
  • (43) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance[/color]
  • (43) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Recharge/Endurance[/color]
  • (46) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]To Hit Buff/Endurance[/color]
  • (46) [color:#7AA4EF]Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Chance for Build Up[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 20:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Health[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Miracle - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]+Recovery[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 22:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Stamina[/color]
  • (A) [color:#8BAFF1]Endurance Modification[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
  • (23) [color:#8BAFF1]Endurance Modification[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
  • (23) [color:#8BAFF1]Endurance Modification[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 24:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Consume[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage[/color]
  • (25) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Recharge[/color]
  • (25) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (27) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (27) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (48) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Chance for Smashing Damage[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 26:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Boxing[/color]
  • (A) [color:#8BAFF1]Accuracy[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 28:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Tough[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance[/color]
  • (29) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Recharge[/color]
  • (29) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (31) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance[/color]
  • (31) [color:#7AA4EF]Steadfast Protection - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/+Def 3%[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 30:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Weave[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Gift of the Ancients - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Defense/Endurance[/color]
  • (31) [color:#7AA4EF]Gift of the Ancients - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Defense/Recharge[/color]
  • (34) [color:#7AA4EF]Gift of the Ancients - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Defense/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (36) [color:#7AA4EF]Gift of the Ancients - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Defense[/color]
  • (36) [color:#7AA4EF]Luck of the Gambler - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Recharge Speed[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 32:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Foot Stomp[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage[/color]
  • (33) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Recharge[/color]
  • (33) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (33) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (34) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (34) [color:#7AA4EF]Obliteration - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Chance for Smashing Damage[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 35:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Fiery Embrace[/color]
  • (A) [color:#8BAFF1]Recharge Reduction[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 38:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Temperature Protection[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance[/color]
  • (40) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Recharge[/color]
  • (50) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/color]
  • (50) [color:#7AA4EF]Reactive Armor - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Resistance[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 41:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Electrifying Fences[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Enfeebled Operation - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Recharge[/color]
  • (42) [color:#7AA4EF]Enfeebled Operation - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Endurance/Immobilize[/color]
  • (42) [color:#7AA4EF]Enfeebled Operation - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Endurance[/color]
  • (42) [color:#7AA4EF]Enfeebled Operation - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Immobilize/Range[/color]
  • (43) [color:#7AA4EF]Enfeebled Operation - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge[/color]
  • (50) [color:#7AA4EF]Enfeebled Operation - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Immobilize[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 44:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Ball Lightning[/color]
  • (A) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage[/color]
  • (45) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Endurance[/color]
  • (45) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Damage/Recharge[/color]
  • (45) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/color]
  • (46) [color:#7AA4EF]Positron's Blast - [/color][color:#7AA4EF]Chance of Damage(Energy)[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 47:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Hasten[/color]
  • (A) [color:#8BAFF1]Recharge Reduction[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
  • (48) [color:#8BAFF1]Recharge Reduction[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
  • (48) [color:#8BAFF1]Recharge Reduction[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 49:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Rise of the Phoenix[/color]
  • (A) [color:#8BAFF1]Healing[/color][color:#8BAFF1] IO[/color]
[color:#489AFF]------------[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Brawl[/color]
  • (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Sprint[/color]
  • (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 2:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Rest[/color]
  • (A) [color:#5EAEFF]Empty[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 1:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Fury[/color]
[color:#4FA7FF]Level 6:[/color] [color:#B3CAF7]Ninja Run[/color]
[color:#489AFF]------------[/color]
[color:#489AFF]Set Bonus Totals:[/color]
  • 8.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 8.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 8.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 8.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 8.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 8.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 8.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 8.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 18.9% Defense(Smashing)
  • 18.9% Defense(Lethal)
  • 4.25% Defense(Fire)
  • 4.25% Defense(Cold)
  • 9.25% Defense(Energy)
  • 9.25% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 20.8% Defense(Melee)
  • 8% Defense(Ranged)
  • 5.5% Defense(AoE)
  • 3.6% Max End
  • 50% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 3% Enhancement(Immobilize)
  • 41% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 4% Enhancement(Heal)
  • 5% FlySpeed
  • 78.7 HP (5.25%) HitPoints
  • 5% JumpHeight
  • 5% JumpSpeed
  • Knockback (Mag -4)
  • Knockup (Mag -4)
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 11%
  • MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
  • MezResist(Stun) 4.4%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
  • 8% (0.13 End/sec) Recovery
  • 5.34% Resistance(Fire)
  • 2.84% Resistance(Cold)
  • 1.88% Resistance(Negative)
  • 5% RunSpeed



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