Personally? I don't like the idea. I think Pain Dom works well enough and meshes well with MMs, which I don't think empathy can do as well.
Also, you can create any number of reasons to make poison or Pain domination more heroic. One of my /poison rps it as alcohol she mixes herself.
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Well two things. First off you are "going rogue" meaning you are still "villainous", just an upper class one that can walk through town without police pulling you over. Think the upper class mafia guys who the cops KNOW are dirty, but can't nab them for illegal activities because they are just that good. I forget the official term for villains going blueside but heros going red become vigilantes like Batman or Punisher.
Secondly, pain is a joke. I mean the entire set is based around removing/soothing pain rather then inflicting or anything remotely matching it's description. They should have done more then just rename Empathy for that set. But that is just personal taste.
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Sure, the villain is initially still a criminal. But if you go too far along the path to redemption, your no longer an upper crust criminal. Your a true blue hero (ala Pied Piper for a while).
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Originally Posted by Wolfwood82
Well two things. First off you are "going rogue" meaning you are still "villainous", just an upper class one that can walk through town without police pulling you over. Think the upper class mafia guys who the cops KNOW are dirty, but can't nab them for illegal activities because they are just that good. I forget the official term for villains going blueside but heros going red become vigilantes like Batman or Punisher.
Secondly, pain is a joke. I mean the entire set is based around removing/soothing pain rather then inflicting or anything remotely matching it's description. They should have done more then just rename Empathy for that set. But that is just personal taste. |
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That's not the way Going Rogue is going to work, at least from what I've interpreted from my own reading.
Once you've switched sides, you'll still have the same powers (i.e. a Bots/Traps or Thugs/Poison will still be the same character with the same powers). You won't have other options to suddenly roll up another buff/debuff secondary just because you're suddenly a "true blue" hero. Same with blue side... you won't be able to roll up a Defender with the Pain Domination primary... you'll still be a ???/??? defender with your original powers.
You still have to start out in either Praetoria or Red Side/Blue Side then go through the character transition, thus already haven chose your powers.
Like I said, it might not be exactly that way, but that's my understanding of how things will work with the expansion.
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Thats pretty much it. The OP is asking if they can port Emp over to MM's so his MM that goes hero doesn't have pain domination.
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Originally Posted by Deceivius
That's not the way Going Rogue is going to work, at least from what I've interpreted from my own reading.
Once you've switched sides, you'll still have the same powers (i.e. a Bots/Traps or Thugs/Poison will still be the same character with the same powers). You won't have other options to suddenly roll up another buff/debuff secondary just because you're suddenly a "true blue" hero. Same with blue side... you won't be able to roll up a Defender with the Pain Domination primary... you'll still be a ???/??? defender with your original powers. You still have to start out in either Praetoria or Red Side/Blue Side then go through the character transition, thus already haven chose your powers. Like I said, it might not be exactly that way, but that's my understanding of how things will work with the expansion. |
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That might be how society works, but it won't be how the game works. You will be a villain, you will be unable to access WWs or use Influence from what I remember. Heros in redside won't be able to access the Black Market or use Infamy. People might view you as a scary hero, but you will never be a "true blue" hero.|
Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
Sure, the villain is initially still a criminal. But if you go too far along the path to redemption, your no longer an upper crust criminal. Your a true blue hero (ala Pied Piper for a while).
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As for pain, what's the problem? If you're hero uses their control over pain to ease/reduce/remove it rather then inflict it (as in, pretty much the only thing they CAN do for some reason), then they are a "good person". The power you have doesn't make you evil because of what it is, the way you choose to use it does.
With the coming of Going Rogue, are we going to see Empathy as an option for MMs? After all Pain Domination and Poison aren't very heroic for MM Heroes. I mean even Sonic would be a better option. I guess the same could be said for heroic Corruptors, but that's a different forum.
Just wondering...What does everyone think?
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