Please help with an Ice/FF build


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So I just got my friend into using Mid's until he can get his account back up and he asked me to post his build for him. Any advice for power selection and order as well as slotting would be appreciated:

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Frosty Bubbles: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(A), BasGaze-Slow%(3), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(3), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), EndRdx-I(7)
Level 1: Personal Force Field -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 2: Deflection Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(5), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 4: Chilblain -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(7), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(9), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(9), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(11), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(11)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 8: Arctic Air -- CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(15), CoPers-Conf%(15), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(17), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(17), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(34)
Level 10: Insulation Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(46), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(46)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(19), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(21)
Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(27), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(27), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-EndRdx(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 22: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(23), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(25), Efficacy-EndMod(25)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 26: Glacier -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(36), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(36), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(36)
Level 28: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(37), RedFtn-Def(37), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(37), RedFtn-EndRdx(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 30: Tactics -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(39), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(40), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(40), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(40), GSFC-Build%(42)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(A), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(34)
Level 35: Repulsion Bomb -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(43), Posi-Dam%(43)
Level 38: Force Bubble -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(43), EndRdx-I(46)
Level 41: Ice Blast -- Acc-I(A)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(50), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 47: Ice Storm -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 6: Ninja Run



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The build overall isn't that bad, but could use some work. Some of the slotting isn't ideal, especially in powers like Health and Stamina.

For powergaming purposes, I created an Ice/Force Field/Earth troller, posted below. It may or may not fit your concept, but I managed to get it soft-capped to Ranged, 44.4% Smash/Melee, and 32.4% AoE Defense, with capped HP and a heal from Earth's Embrace. To do it, however, I had to slot Replusion Bomb for Stun, which makes it pretty much just a useless mule. You can change to this damage, but you will lose some melee Defense. A better builder may be able to find a way around that.

BTW AoE damage from this build is pitiful. I'm not sure I'm totally behind all of the choices I made. I think this would make a crazy strong tank if it can avoid Defense debuffs and sleep powers, though.


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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Frosty Bubbles: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25)
Level 1: Personal Force Field -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 2: Deflection Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(5), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 4: Chilblain -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(19)
Level 8: Arctic Air -- CoPers-Conf%(A), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(15), C'phny-EndRdx/Conf(15), Mlais-EndRdx/Conf(17), Mlais-Dam%(17), C'phny-Dam%(19)
Level 10: Insulation Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(13)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), Range-I(43)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(21), Zephyr-Travel(21)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(25), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(27), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(27), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 22: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), P'Shift-End%(23), P'Shift-EndMod(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 26: Glacier -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(29), Lock-Rchg/Hold(29), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(36), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(36), Lock-%Hold(36)
Level 28: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 30: Shiver -- ImpSwft-Acc/Slow(A), P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow(37), TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(37)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc(34), BldM'dt-Dmg(34)
Level 35: Repulsion Bomb -- RzDz-Acc/Rchg(A), RzDz-EndRdx/Stun(37), RzDz-Acc/EndRdx(39), RzDz-Immob%(39), RzDz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(39)
Level 38: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(40), Zephyr-ResKB(40)
Level 41: Hurl Boulder -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Seismic Smash -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(46), HO:Endo(46), G'Wdw-Acc/Hold/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Earth's Embrace -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Numna-Heal/Rchg(48), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Numna-Heal(50), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(50)
Level 49: Rock Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 6: Ninja Run



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I really hate to see Health and Stamina slotted the way you had them. A great deal of the enhancement value is lost on enhancing aspects the powers don't use. You could easily use the slots from Health to get a better recharge value in Ice Blast while transforming it into a useful power.

Here's your build, Great, with a few minor changes that yield slightly better recharge, recovery, and end usage. You'll also note better lethal/smashing and AoE defense. The only aspect that has decreased is regeneration by about 1 hp/sec. It's still a very endurance intensive build. However, I think it makes more efficient use of slots and you'll find your holds more effective, perhaps alleviating the need for so much defense.

Oh, and I recommend taking Superspeed with the stealth proc. With such high defense you may find it useful to stealth into the center of a mob and fire off your AoE hold.

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As far as power selection goes, would recommend stamina before dispersion bubble and giving strong consideration to aid self and aid other. Would recommend primal epic pool for power boosted bubbles.

I'd mark all your powers from level 35 and up as optional and consider dropping two of them for the healing powers and then juggling powers to work the heals in early in the build. Ice/FF is the kind of toon that can carry an entire team on it's back if you play it right, and the heals play an important part in this.

For IO bonuses, I admit I haven't carefully looked at what you've gotten. But Ice/FF is an endurance-heavy build and would recommend eyeing +Recovery bonuses.


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