Which 64 bit Windows OS?


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I plan to finally upgrade to a 64bit system.

I am not picky about which OS I get, xp 64 bit, Vista 64 or Win7 64.

What I want is one that will be the most painless and least useless when it comes to CoX. Or least painful and most useful...

Basically, I want everything to be the same as now, but I want more RAM and a better CPU and GPU. That means upgrading my OS as well as my hardware.

So which one plays nicest with CoX?


 

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Win 7. XP-64 has driver support issues, Vista is a steaming POS, Win 7 is fine.


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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
Win 7. XP-64 has driver support issues, Vista is a steaming POS, Win 7 is fine.
bzzt. WRONG

Windows Vista and Windows 7 are the SAME BLOODY OPERATING SYSTEM

If you work with Vista, you have to make sure that you grab the latest service pack and the DirectX 11 platform update to bring your system into synch with the Windows 7 release.


 

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je_saist is ridiculously wrong, but the argument would mean nothing. To put it another way, Vista offers absolutely nothing that Win 7 doesn't provide. Don't bother with it.


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bzzt. WRONG

Windows Vista and Windows 7 are the SAME BLOODY OPERATING SYSTEM

If you work with Vista, you have to make sure that you grab the latest service pack and the DirectX 11 platform update to bring your system into synch with the Windows 7 release.
Vista is the bones of 7, but other than that, 7 is not Vista. 7 is Vista that has been fixed and added on to, meaning Vista is now subpar.


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I got a brand new PC put together as of about a week (two?) ago. I got the Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium version. So far everything is good


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Thank you all vm for your input.


 

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Originally Posted by all_hell View Post
I plan to finally upgrade to a 64bit system.

I am not picky about which OS I get, xp 64 bit, Vista 64 or Win7 64.

What I want is one that will be the most painless and least useless when it comes to CoX. Or least painful and most useful...

Basically, I want everything to be the same as now, but I want more RAM and a better CPU and GPU. That means upgrading my OS as well as my hardware.

So which one plays nicest with CoX?
Windows XP 64-bit SP3 has an expiry date of 2014 on security updates compared to Windows Vista SP2, with a projected date of 2013 (which may change if SP3 is to be made or not). Both are eclipsed by Windows 7, which like Vista SP2 was released in 2009, but has yet to receive a Service Pack at all.

Resources wise, 64-bit versions of any of the three operating system requires more memory than their 32-bit counterparts, so in any system OS 1GB of RAM would deliver middling performance at best. XP will use the least amount of resources of all three (but also hits a brick wall at DirectX 9 compatible titles), with 7 being second, and Vista coming at third being 10-20% slower than gaming with Windows 7 in most configurations.

The Point: XP would be worth it if you can still get your hands on it. That would assume you have a System Builder copy, or have a discontinued desktop/laptop in mind at a wholesaler with XP 64 preinstalled... (TigerDirect, looking at your direction), with the understanding that the PC won't get security updates within three years and can't use DirectX 10 or 11... if you only play CoH, then that isn't much of an issue if you know that your PC hardware would support Vista or 7's minimum requirements anyway; just buy it later.

If you play other titles that support DX9 (which are small but will increase in the future) then XP should be passed. Windows 7 will be supported longer and costs similar to Vista editions, so Vista provides no considerable benefit over either XP or Windows 7 IMO.

Edit: Nevermind, missed the deadline. (Was looking up info as I typed this and watched The Simpsons... good Technical Issues posts take research, after all. )


 

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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
bzzt. WRONG

Windows Vista and Windows 7 are the SAME BLOODY OPERATING SYSTEM

If you work with Vista, you have to make sure that you grab the latest service pack and the DirectX 11 platform update to bring your system into synch with the Windows 7 release.
Chimpanzees are not neanderthals, and Vista is not 7. Vista platform updates don't bring all 7 features along, but they do add things to ensure broad compatibility.


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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
je_saist is ridiculously wrong, but the argument would mean nothing. To put it another way, Vista offers absolutely nothing that Win 7 doesn't provide. Don't bother with it.
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Vista is the bones of 7, but other than that, 7 is not Vista. 7 is Vista that has been fixed and added on to, meaning Vista is now subpar.
These.

7 is what Vista should have been. Win7x64 is great. I see no reason to pick up Vista (other than, perhaps, "I need a copy since I support it at work" or some such) with Win7 available. 7 is the first and only version of Windows I actually looked forward to, and have updated every system of mine in the house to use.

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Also, Tahquiz, nitpick - there is no such thing as WinXP 64bit SP3. 32 bit has SP3, 64 has SP2, same expiration date - and I wouldn't suggest going through the effort of finding it to anyone who didn't have some actual need to run it specifically.


 

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Point taken, but the lower memory footprint of XP is still desirable (~400MB RAM taken up on a clean install), since City of Heroes still officially supports XP only (again, splitting hairs). Otherwise, I agree, Win 7 all the way. (I run all three, have PC's on XP, Vista and 7... the Vista one isn't fast enough for Win 7 anyway.)

If one finds a machine preloaded with it, would consider it if I was in their shoes, particular if the manufacturer satisfied all the HCL voodoo to get it to run in the first place.


 

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... since City of Heroes still officially supports XP only ...
Incorrect.

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Minimum PC System Requirements:

OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP/Vista/7
This was updated with the release of Issue 17.


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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.