One with the Shield
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-06-01 11:52 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
Keep in mind that mitigation like defense and resistance aren't additive, they're multiplicative.
Once you've hit the softcap, the only way to increase survivability beyond that is to add resistance.
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OWTS is nice if you have the room - the crash isn't a full crash and you get a nice recovery bonus while it's up. I really like it during leveling as shields can be pretty squishy til you can io them. It's especially useful if your attack power is too endurance heavy to afford tough/weave before io's.
Yes it is a +res power in a +def set
There are two strong things this power gives SD,
One; a fall back for when DDR that the set is lacking fails
Two; a Massive +recover and HP buff
With one slot set for End mod this power has a 42.7% recover buff thast almost as good as a three sloted stamina (49.8%) thast with one slot if you put two in it you blow stamina out of the watter with 55% ontop of that you can slot +res or +hp just one lvl 50 heal IO grants you 533 HP's
Now that said i would LOVE this power far more if it was effected by +rech it is skipabull if your not having issues with Shilds low DDR but if your runing into huge def debuffs it can keep you out of the fire fairly well.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Keep in mind that mitigation like defense and resistance aren't additive, they're multiplicative.
Once you've hit the softcap, the only way to increase survivability beyond that is to add resistance. |
While I did take it; I didn't slot it(I put Imperivum Armor +3% resist in it). It's not as stong as many tier 9 'panic buttons', but it has a soft crash; it won't drop your toggles.
Edit: funny thing, I usually use it as a Endurance boost.
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Originally Posted by MementoMori
There are two strong things this power gives SD,
One; a fall back for when DDR that the set is lacking fails Two; a Massive +recover and HP buff |
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Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot
Edit: funny thing, I usually use it as a Endurance boost.
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Yeah, I use it less since they added Physical Perfection. Still, I had to use it the other day fighting Carnies *mutters obscenities*, and Conserve Power was still recharging.
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Originally Posted by Andferne
With Stamina, Physical Perfection, and Dark Consumption I never have End problems on my Scrapper. Rare times I get touched by End sappers I always have Conserve Power which usually just sits there.
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Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot
Still, I had to use it the other day fighting Carnies *mutters obscenities*, and Conserve Power was still recharging.
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If it was affected by recharge it would have a MUCH longer recharge (probably around 700s since it has a shorter duration than the other god mode powers) and would probably get a full crash as well. The rational with both OwtS and Strength of Will is that by giving them a fixed and unenhanceable recharge they can balance them better between SO'd builds and heavily IO'd builds. All builds have the same up-time on the power which is part of the reason they have a less painful crash than the other god mode powers.
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Originally Posted by MementoMori
Now that said i would LOVE this power far more if it was effected by +rech it is skipabull if your not having issues with Shilds low DDR but if your runing into huge def debuffs it can keep you out of the fire fairly well.
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I really like it. I found it very handy when trying to punch above my weight a bit (eg +3/x8 maps) and could alternate it with purple and orange pills to keep my survivability up.
I like the power, and I have it on my SS/SD brute. He is over-eager and gets himself in hot water every now and then. The +res is nice, and so is the +end recovery. The crash is very manageable. I only have it slotted with the original slot, but I find it to be a worthwhile power if you have the room for it.
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Is it's recharge time effected by hasten and IO global recharge +%?
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I'm curious to what your build is then and what levels you are fighting at that you find yourself in hot waters. My DM/SD can cake walk through +2/x8 maps and do +3s as well. +4s are doable as well, but I find the time it takes to kill the bosses of that level is not worth the effort.
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Originally Posted by magikwand
I like the power, and I have it on my SS/SD brute. He is over-eager and gets himself in hot water every now and then. The +res is nice, and so is the +end recovery. The crash is very manageable. I only have it slotted with the original slot, but I find it to be a worthwhile power if you have the room for it.
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To my knowledge nothing effects its recharge. =(
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Originally Posted by MindGame1
Is it's recharge time effected by hasten and IO global recharge +%?
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I like to do +4/x8 sometimes and I regularly "tank" ITFs. Of course, on ITFs where defense debuffs run rampant, cascading defense failure is common place and it is nice to have something other than inspirations to fall back on in the event things begin to go south. I am not implying that shield is lacking in its defense, not mine anyway. I am capped to all 3 positions alone. However, it is still a defense based secondary for my brute, and occasionally RNG just wants to stick it to me. If that happens, I like to be ready. And to clarify one thing- don't take every now and then as all the time. If I meant all the time, I would have said that.|
Originally Posted by Andferne
I'm curious to what your build is then and what levels you are fighting at that you find yourself in hot waters. My DM/SD can cake walk through +2/x8 maps and do +3s as well. +4s are doable as well, but I find the time it takes to kill the bosses of that level is not worth the effort.
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Let's not forget that DM/SD can give a nice heal which is very nice for a shielder. On a SS/ the only additional mitigation one can get is through knocking mobs down for a second to breathe. So yes, your dm/sd gets more mitigation than a ss/sd because of the tools in dm.
If you find yourself "cake walking" through content in the game, you need to challenge yourself more.
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Originally Posted by Andferne
To my knowledge nothing effects its recharge. =(
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Willpower: Strength of Will is like this too. However, their recharge is 5 min(Strength of Will) and 6 min(One with the Shield). Versus the 16 min 40 sec of Unstoppable, Power Surge or Elude; even with 100% recharge, their recharge time only gets as low as 8 min 20 sec. It almost as if SoW and OwtS are already fully enhanced for recharge(as tier 9's go).
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I do everything at +2/x8, or higher and always keep Bosses/AVs on. Majority of the time fight against Pyschic using opponents. Also rarely ever touch Insps, normally don't even keep that tab open.
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Originally Posted by magikwand
If you find yourself "cake walking" through content in the game, you need to challenge yourself more.
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Do you like the power? Or do you find it worthless/pointless? I have two Shield toons and it is the only power that I skip. For one I am not a fan of crash powers, but if the boost justifies the crash then I would definitely think about it. I played with OwtS on my DM/SD Scrapper for a while and don't miss it at all.
If the power could be effected by recharges then I might think about giving it a chance, but not likely. I don't think the increase to Resistance etc is worth it when majority of Shields revolves around Defense. I look at OwtS compared to Granite or Unstoppable and just laugh.