claw/dark, claw/ELA and slotting


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as the tittle suggest, i have issues choosing between the two.

Ela got energize a built in haster and a nice tier nine but the 0% toxic resistance coupled with the set being pure resistance make me fear for my ability to survive (and i will not be able to pruchase 5 purple set or do intensive IO slotting)

Dark seems better to me as i never rolled a toon that would have no defense at all, and with cloak+cj and maybe maneauver i could achieve something like 14% def all which is nice coupled with the res

but even if i can enhance my defense even more with some IO sets, would something like 20% def matters?

should i not go for res or +hp/regen instead?

same for Ela, beside toxic and maybe some psi res, what should i aim for?
+rech to have my tier nine more and energize perma?
+ regen to enhance the regen in energize?

it's for PvE


 

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Originally Posted by Nny_the_mad View Post
as the tittle suggest, i have issues choosing between the two.

Ela got energize a built in haster and a nice tier nine but the 0% toxic resistance coupled with the set being pure resistance make me fear for my ability to survive (and i will not be able to pruchase 5 purple set or do intensive IO slotting)

Dark seems better to me as i never rolled a toon that would have no defense at all, and with cloak+cj and maybe maneauver i could achieve something like 14% def all which is nice coupled with the res

but even if i can enhance my defense even more with some IO sets, would something like 20% def matters?

should i not go for res or +hp/regen instead?

same for Ela, beside toxic and maybe some psi res, what should i aim for?
+rech to have my tier nine more and energize perma?
+ regen to enhance the regen in energize?

it's for PvE
your base for defense on dark will be cloak of darkness+cj+weave. Maneuvers is an end hog and gives a bit less defense.

you can actually softcap your defense on both sets. Not the cheapest thing in the world to do, but you don't need any purples. 45% s/l defense is what you are aiming for.

And me personally, I would go for the defense instead of res or +hp/regen. You won't be able to get enough out of either to make it more worthwhile than going for def softcap. Also, depending on how you do it, you can push up your regen at the same time.

energize is nice, especially perma which is easy to do, power surge I hate, but I hate all tier 9 "god mode" powers. The crash can get you into trouble.

DA is a solid set and has the best heal in the game.


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You could softcap S/L defense, but most likely you'll need to sacrifice some slotting and power picks for it. So it would be up to you if it's worth it or not. I try to aim for anything over 30% and you'll see a huge difference.


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level 10 so far.

i rolled both to have a "feel" of each set.

it's my first time as a brute
i must says i'm confused. i feel really weak (damage wise and it seems i'm in paper. especially with the Ela one)

for the moment it seems that those brute will ranks way under a crab or a AoE oriented widow/fort

is this normal? ^^'


 

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level 10 so far.

i rolled both to have a "feel" of each set.

i must says i'm confused. i feel really weak (damage wise and it seems i'm in paper. especially with the Ela one)


is this normal? ^^'
I don't see how if you're getting your fury high. I have a claws\dark and he never felt weak....but I've been playing brutes for many years. I have a habit of setting brawl for auto, which early on really helps get fury up there when you don't have a full attack chain. If your not getting high fury, that's probably why. Try that.


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level 12
it's the most painfull time i had for only 2 level.

elec armor is made of paper. i can't even run more than 2 togle otherwise it just suck me dry of end.
the first boss i meet destroy me in 2 or 3 blow, it's a real nightmare O_o


 

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level 12
it's the most painfull time i had for only 2 level.

elec armor is made of paper. i can't even run more than 2 togle otherwise it just suck me dry of end.
the first boss i meet destroy me in 2 or 3 blow, it's a real nightmare O_o
What is your slotting like ? On all my brutes I tend to four slot my attacks with 2acc 2end in the early levels and damres in the toggles with brawl on auto. If you can manage to have a nice level of fury from mob to mob you should be streamrolling things on a claws/elec I know mine did lol.


 

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My own claws/ela was painful to lvl, managed to get him to lvl 30ish before it was shelved indefinitly.


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I have two /ElA brutes at 50, and didn't have the problems you're describing on either of them.

Since you're lvl 12 now, put two end redux DOs and two acc DOs into each attack and you'll be golden. Slot your toggles with resists, and use your damage aura sparingly, if at all before you get Stamina.

Regarding damage, as a brute you must build fury or you'll deal none. But with adequate fury, you'll rip everything apart. Claws is a very good set for fury building, and when all your attacks are recharging be sure to use brawl.

I can't speak for DA, but on ElA you should get Tough as soon as possible, at about 30 for example. You'll be the squishiest between about 20 and 28, when you get Energize.

In the endgame, /ElA can both be slotted defensively and offensively, but I'm a strong advocte of slotting it offensively. You can get close to permahaste without purples and about 20% to all positions, and those 20% matter a lot. Slotting for +HP and +regen is a nice but tertiary priority.