Ladder Stuff - Stalker Restrictions Revisited
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Borderline Boss,
Posted on: 2010-05-23 18:23 in Everything about PvP
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Originally Posted by Daknah
Lets do a mock line up here with what you suggested.
Team A: 2 emps 6 stalkers Team B: 2 emps 4 Forts 2 stalkers (since nothing else can kill with just 2) Match becomes a 4v4 2 emps 2 stalkers vs 2 emps 2 stalkers granted your forts will do a little damage to the other stalkers and those other stalkers will get some out of hide sharks off. Sounds like alot of fun to me. So much skill being showcased. If you wanna argue this maybe try to get the ladder be 4v4s |
yeah, that match would never happen like that.
the fact that you'd counter with Team B just points to how knowledge in countering has gone down the drain.
Guarantee the Psy em will die more then a stalker no matter what. So yes. Not to mention the blaster has to actually do an attack chain not just SHRAK RUN OMG GTFO SHRAK IS OFF.
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Just using your suggestion.... Forts aint what they use to be barrier...
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Originally Posted by iLostCountBarrier
yeah, that match would never happen like that.
the fact that you'd counter with Team B just points to how knowledge in countering has gone down the drain. |
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Originally Posted by Daknah
Guarantee the Psy em will die more then a stalker no matter what. So yes. Not to mention the blaster has to actually do an attack chain not just SHRAK RUN OMG GTFO SHRAK IS OFF.
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oh yeah, hitting three buttons in quick succession after hitting tab 3 times over is a lot harder than evading mm pets, webs and dominate being constantly thrown at you in order to land an AS (sharks are good, but seriously AS is what gets you a kill, but nevertheless, let's pretend it's just about 300 point sharks out hide). totally.
seriously dex?
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my four fort mention was a reference to i12 vill-side matches, when you'd have teams running 4 forts, and a stalker and the stalker would still get AS's off. and we're talking far better people on the forts than the ones that are currently playing.
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Originally Posted by Daknah
Just using your suggestion.... Forts aint what they use to be barrier...
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oh and did i mention, everyone had capped psi resists back then? yeah.. ok... forts did damage. right.
mf zen shadow skillz.
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Your whole argument seems to be leading to one thing and one thing only... A villain ladder, Please feel free to go make one.|
Originally Posted by iLostCountBarrier
oh yeah, hitting three buttons in quick succession after hitting tab 3 times over is a lot harder than evading mm pets, webs and dominate being constantly thrown at you in order to land an AS (sharks are good, but seriously AS is what gets you a kill, but nevertheless, let's pretend it's just about 300 point sharks out hide). totally.
seriously dex? |
And a blaster that gets only 3 attacks off is a bad blaster, Im starting to see why some jump teams didnt seem as strong as some others.
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procs.|
Originally Posted by Daknah
Your whole argument seems to be leading to one thing and one thing only... A villain ladder, Please feel free to go make one.
And a blaster that gets only 3 attacks off is a bad blaster, Im starting to see why some jump teams didnt seem as strong as some others. |
but ok. whatever. separate topic.
well, barring more than 2 instances of the main damage AT villainside resulted in what essentially was a hero league + brutes. at least when people weren't RPing CIGAL style and running doms just because playing a blaster is this game's equivalent of the konami code (not f hard).
I think we can all agree that you are fighting a losing battle barrier. It looks like the captains want a stalker restriction as well as double blind line ups.
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great line of reasoning dex.|
Originally Posted by Daknah
I think we can all agree that you are fighting a losing battle barrier. It looks like the captains want a stalker restriction as well as double blind line ups.
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mf brilliant.
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Just stating the obvious, dont blame me Im not a captain.
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Originally Posted by iLostCountBarrier
great line of reasoning dex.
mf brilliant. |
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stupid ideas are still stupid even if everyone believes them otherwise.
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Originally Posted by Daknah
Just stating the obvious, dont blame me Im not a captain.
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Just because you believe one idea is stupid and another isn't does not make it so. Opinions are opinions.
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Originally Posted by iLostCountBarrier
stupid ideas are still stupid even if everyone believes them otherwise.
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you're the one that deviated from a discussion based on facts and reasoning...
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Originally Posted by Daknah
Just because you believe one idea is stupid and another isn't does not make it so. Opinions are opinions.
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Lol you were not using facts nor reasoning.
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Originally Posted by iLostCountBarrier
you're the one that deviated from a discussion based on facts and reasoning...
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As much as I hate to say it, dex has the floor here.
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6685529/3-hot-and-vex-3
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point to a concrete example, cutie.
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Originally Posted by Daknah
Lol you were not using facts nor reasoning.
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sections 2 and 4 of the penial
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Originally Posted by iLostCountBarrier
An argument for that could be made.
But if the last league didn't prove to you how the blind-line-up submission completely wrecked the roles of even more ATs when it came to high-end pvp matches, then there's no way you're gonna see things from my point of view. i'm PERSONALLY ok with no ts no hd because I (MEMEMEMEME) believe they up the skill-ante, the game stops being a JUST damage spam. so yes, it's fiteclub. it's huge fiteclub. if you can make an argument that states that playing a psy/em in a league match took more skill than playing a stalker with 4 forts up your *** much like in i12, then i might see things your way. i'd rather be challenged by countering teams than keep playing mf dice with line-ups. |
#2: i'll break it down for you since it seems like it needs to be done: we saw so many mm's outside of the lab map. we saw a million forts. we saw so so many thermals. and oh god, yes, i throughly enjoyed all the cold corrs that were part of winning matches. add to that all the non-ta non-emp trollers. those were everywhere. oh wait. they weren't. oh and the non-psi/em blasters, those were great.
#4: already broke it down for you before. fort chasing you + mm pets permantently locked on you = harder than tab tab click x 3-4.
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All your problems seem centered more around the way i13 works than the rules
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Originally Posted by iLostCountBarrier
#2: i'll break it down for you since it seems like it needs to be done: we saw so many mm's outside of the lab map. we saw a million forts. we saw so so many thermals. and oh god, yes, i throughly enjoyed all the cold corrs that were part of winning matches. add to that all the non-ta non-emp trollers. those were everywhere. oh wait. they weren't. oh and the non-psi/em blasters, those were great.
#4: already broke it down for you before. fort chasing you + mm pets permantently locked on you = harder than tab tab click x 3-4. |
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6685529/3-hot-and-vex-3
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Dex you really have to stop arguing against stalkers with shrak attack as the only argument, yes plenty of stupid stalkers run around with only shark but theres plenty who know how to use their stalkers and quite a few that are shrakless in there builds - pretty sure con and mac have sharkless stalkers they are both in the same team as barrier, those who will play in the ladder trowing sharks probably don't know how to play their stalkers anyway so wont be much of a threat.|
Originally Posted by Daknah
sections 2 and 4 of the penial
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Stalkers can be countered against like I said to you earlier in AC there really is no reason for there to be a stalker cap - one as low as 2 anyway.
Soul touch is on barriers side, case closed the opposing side has won.
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6685529/3-hot-and-vex-3
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Borderline terrible please stay quiet when did you start using the forums |
Originally Posted by Borderline Boss
Soul touch is on barriers side, case closed the opposing side has won.
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wait wait wait... playing a stalker with forts and mm's up your *** is easier than playing a psi/em? seriously, dex?