Can one abandon a mission and get it again at a higher level?
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Posted on: 2010-05-17 16:25 in Player Questions
If it's in an arc, you will not be able to get it again.
You might be able to get one of the non-arc, generic missions from your contact, but I doubt it.
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hmmm I thought that was the point of abandon over complete mission.
Half recall it working the way OP described when I abandoned one of kalindas missions, got the same one back again when I talked to her again.
Will have to test it tonight.
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Abandon isn't the same as Complete. Abandon makes it like you never talked to the contact and accepted the current mission.
It's been tested with the The Code Merlin arc from Tavish Bell. I proposed the idea that using the new Abandon Mission feature would allow you to retake the mission, and get a different set of Possessed Scientists for the 2nd mission of the arc. Results were that you get the same Possessed Scientists.
I would think that abandoning a mission taken at X, and retaking it at X+1 would give you the mission at X+1.
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As long as you're within the level range of the arc, I don't see why you couldn't abandon at a lower level and retake it at a higher one. If you outlevel the contact, though, in the meantime, you may not be able to get the mish again. This will apply when switching sides with the GR content. Your current mishes that aren't co-op will be auto-abandoned when you can no longer enter that side's zones, but can be picked up again when you switch back.
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Yes. I abandoned a level 8 "hunt CoT in Perez" mission when I was level 8, did another contact to bump my level to 10, then took "hunt CoT in Perez" again (so I could actually run around in the trees without fearing for my life) and my mission list listed it at level 10, not level 8.
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
If I have a mission I got at a previous level, but I'm still within the contact's level range, can I abandon it, and by talking to the contact get it again, but it will now be my current level?
Does it make a difference if it's a mission in a story arc instead of a non-arc mission? |
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
If it's in an arc, you will not be able to get it again.
You might be able to get one of the non-arc, generic missions from your contact, but I doubt it. |
Not sure if Aett maybe just didn't understand the question, but their reply is incorrect.
Yeah, sorry...read that as "Drop" not "Abandon"
My bad.
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What Morbid Star said is correct. You can get it again at your current level as long as you don't exceed the level range for the contact. |
Originally Posted by Morbid Star
I have tested this on all of, a regular mission, a small story arc mission, a large story arc mission, and a badge mission,. from contacts. Then abandoned them, increased my level and recieved the same , a regular mission, a small story arc mission, a large story arc mission, and/or a badge mission, from the same contact at the current higher level. As long as the new higher level does not exceed the current contacts level range, I had absolutely no trouble at all with getting it reguardless of wether it was a regular mission, a small story arc mission, a large story arc mission, or a badge mission. Keep in mind that this was in starting a new arc in such cases, and not proceeding with an existing arc, as to which we know will proceed at up to the contacts max level range reguardless of your currently level untill the arc is completed.
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I learned this the hard way by dropping the Loa Bone mish from Mr. Bocor at lvl 9 and tried to get it again at lvl 11. I abandoned it, spoke to him again and got the cold shoulder.
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Yes, you can. I just did this with a Scrapper who had the 'Stop the Tsoo from taking over all the gangs in Paragon' mission. Had it at 22 and had just completed the 3rd and was holding the 4th 'Bust gang leaders and their crews' mission. She hit 24, I abandoned the mission and retook it and it's now 24. And that's a chained set of missions (i.e. each one is auto-assigned upon completing and leaving the previous one).
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
If I have a mission I got at a previous level, but I'm still within the contact's level range, can I abandon it, and by talking to the contact get it again, but it will now be my current level?
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Was the GR info here stated somewhere on the forums? Or did it come from the HeroCon or PAX East panel(s)? I know I haven't gotten around to watching them yet, so I may have (i.e. most likely) missed something...
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
This will apply when switching sides with the GR content. Your current mishes that aren't co-op will be auto-abandoned when you can no longer enter that side's zones, but can be picked up again when you switch back.
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Originally Posted by Asha'man
What Morbid Star said is correct. You can get it again at your current level as long as you don't exceed the level range for the contact.
I learned this the hard way by dropping the Loa Bone mish from Mr. Bocor at lvl 9 and tried to get it again at lvl 11. I abandoned it, spoke to him again and got the cold shoulder. |
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IIRC clicking on the submarine next to Janus tells you this in the warning text box that pops up.
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Was the GR info here stated somewhere on the forums? Or did it come from the HeroCon or PAX East panel(s)? I know I haven't gotten around to watching them yet, so I may have (i.e. most likely) missed something...
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I was pleased last night to discover that this works nicely with timed missions.
I wanted to open Regent Korol's arc before outleveling, but the arc opened with a timed mission. However, I was able to drop the mission and now the Contact info for her shows the arc as open, and I am now free to go do other things and run this arc at my leisure.
Well, I tried this and I think it backfired on me.
My 50 Tanker had Unai Kemen's Council Empire mission (untimed) at 49. I abandoned it, hoping to speak to him again and get the mission at 50 this time. Didn't really need to, since I could set the 49 mission to +1, but it would save me some trips to the field analyst.
When I talked to him again (immediately), he gave me the timed Warwolves mission -- which, if I interpret the wiki on Unai Kemen correctly, is the next one in the series.
I tried abandoning it and talking to him again a few times, but kept getting it. Now it is counting down and I can't abandon it.
Am I out of luck on ever getting that Council Empire mission back? I don't believe it's available in Oroborous, even.
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Are you sure you didn't accidentally complete it? Because it seems to me that if you had abandoned it, it would have been right there when you went to get it again, but if you completed it accidentally, it's gone forever. If you did this within the past 3 days, try completing another mission. If it won't let you, you probably already used your completion for the council mission.
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
Well, I tried this and I think it backfired on me.
My 50 Tanker had Unai Kemen's Council Empire mission (untimed) at 49. I abandoned it, hoping to speak to him again and get the mission at 50 this time. Didn't really need to, since I could set the 49 mission to +1, but it would save me some trips to the field analyst. When I talked to him again (immediately), he gave me the timed Warwolves mission -- which, if I interpret the wiki on Unai Kemen correctly, is the next one in the series. I tried abandoning it and talking to him again a few times, but kept getting it. Now it is counting down and I can't abandon it. Am I out of luck on ever getting that Council Empire mission back? I don't believe it's available in Oroborous, even. |
No, I was able to complete another mission just now, as you said. So I apparently did not accidentally complete the Council Empire mission.
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I've seen this happen as of late due to the fix they implemented to LINKED missions, as in i'm guessing the Unai Kemen's Council Empire mission (untimed) at 49 was recieved onto your mission que upon completeing the mission prior to it, and not completed through speaking with Unai and recieveing it as the next. The fix had to do with an exploit that had to deal with Linked messager missions that could just be completed abandoned repeated completed abanoned for XP for just talking. Now it appears that any Linked missions will simply move onto the next when abandoned or auto-completed.
Yes, it does seem that abandoning a mission from a contact who gives missions randomly WILL cause you to sometimes get a different mission when you talk to them again.
I've found this to be especially useful in Striga. Peebles has always annoyed me to no end. She gives most of her arc in a random order, which is a nightmare on big teams as often you'll have to do the same mission 2 or 3 times, and that's with careful planning.
Now, you can just pick one, and everyone who got a different mission can simply keep abandoning until they get the same one.
If I have a mission I got at a previous level, but I'm still within the contact's level range, can I abandon it, and by talking to the contact get it again, but it will now be my current level?
Does it make a difference if it's a mission in a story arc instead of a non-arc mission?
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog