get said target to attack, its the ultimate slow power.
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Slows have been kinda gutted in the game. They are not as effective as they used to be and in many cases, barely noticeable. Takes a bit more to see results now.
A toon with SS can pretty much SS over any slow type patch nowadays, no matter how much slow you have slotted in it, i think.....
I dont recall being slowed by a patch type power in in pvp for a long time now. Nothing noticeable or restrictive to me anyways.
See I know 1 patch would never slow someone alone, but the two powers in question are glue patch and oil slick both slotted for slows. Combined with Power boost from Ghost widows Patron, it would be even higher than -360%.
After messing with this I found out I was looking in the wrong area, I was trying to look for a global number for +speed and thats not how it works.
Standard Super Speed unslotted is +350% speed, whilst sprint is +50% and swift is 35% so basically unslotted I would still have to hit generally over 435% to have any effect vs someone unslotted.
Slotted with IOs is 71% swift 64% sprint (single run IO slotted) and 591% with BotZ set in SS. Meaning to have any effect vs an average PvPer at 50, I would need to stack 726% -speed to start slowing past regular run speed...
Thats kind of insane, but its still possible, just not with the original idea I had. Seems like its a troller or possibly dominator only thing.
stacked siphon speed + webnade + glue is the quickest way to slow them mofos down. All the other ways require too many combinations of powers and would prolly kill one of ur teammates or urself before you can get all those powers down.
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Originally Posted by PC_guy
get said target to attack, its the ultimate slow power.
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Ice/Cold, Grav/TA, Grav/Cold, Ice/Ice (maybe Grav/Ice) dom can all slow targets to almost crawl speed. But require a decent amount of stacking before the effect start taking place, you can slow people down with patches still but it require 2 -specials (cold or poison) to get pre i13 slows.
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ya i agree with nanu. As a grav user i spam a few grav holds and immobs to get them just slow enough to Force Bubble them as my team kills them off. I think slows take way too long to set up and the other team can speed boost which means no slows for you evarr. Slows are still effective in duels and in more drawn out fights like maybe 2v2s and the occasional solo zone run ins.
Anyone have any idea how to work out how much -speed you need to slow an SS user down?
At the minute I'm on -360% slow in a patch, would this be enough or would they just super speed out of it?