Phenom II X6
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Back_Blast,
Posted on: 2010-04-28 07:15 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
Have a look here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...90fx,2613.html
Looks to be a decent review and puts the X6's up against some i7's for comparisons.
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Tom's Hardware
X-Bit Labs
bit-tech.net
AnandTech
The Tech Report
And those are from the sites I normally read.
The conclusions are mixed. What AMD did was to add two cores, enable a kind of turbo mode when only 3 cores are busy but didn't expand the L3 cache and it's "rated" clock speed is a little slower than the 4 core Phenom II X4 965 (3.2GHz Vs 3.4GHz). Now in tasks that can't use the extra cores, like most games, the older four core Phenom II tended to perform better. Where the new X6 CPUs did perform better than even Intel's CPUs is during some video encoding benchmarks. However overall the Phenom II X6 1090t was still beaten by the slightly less expensive ($280-295 Vs $310) Intel i7-860, i7-920 and i7-930. The older X4 965 is only $186.
In tests that actually use all 6 cores, the new AMD processors perform nearly as well as similarly priced 4 core Intel i7s and definitely better than AMD's previous top dog. But the question, as always when you get near the top end of a CPU line, is it worth the $120+?
Read the reviews, draw your own conclusions.
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They're still a little toasty, and consume enough power >.< Don't think im being picky, I run AMD in my rigs atm, but I feel more and more that the next upgrades will be intel
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Well that is the problem right now with AMD but if you have a 600w and up PSU then you should be fine with the power consumption.
Thanks I knew you guys would steer me to the right or relevant info as usual! Those articles really put things in perspective for me. I know I'm not a computer geek so the numbers tend to go over my head, so usually I look at the basic conclusions of the articles. And almost all of them say the same thing - that for gaming this CPU doesn't really perform better than the current AMD 4 cores and less so than most of the Intels.
So here's a question - If my basic uses of my computer are in this order:
1)Play COH/V
2) Internet browsing (my son does on-line home-schooling which is web based but pretty much anything works for this)
2)Weekly sessions of multiple spreadsheet and document manipulation. (for work which I have laptop for but I don't always feel like lugging it home)
3)Occassional PhotoShop CS4 work (soon to be CS5). Mostly my son learning to do digital art and my manipulating photos and such.
What CPU-wise should I be hunting down? I have no preference Intel or AMD but I know Intel is currently (and for a while now) leading the price to performance ratio, at least in the mid-range.
I of course want the biggest and best but at some point I realize I probably won't need or use it. I have no plans to play any other games at this point. This is the only game I've ever played on PC (well WoW for like 2 days before I regurgitated it out of my comp) everything else I use the PS3...
Well one question we might ask is: What do you have now?
Really, the places where a multicore like the X6 and i7 are going to shine the most for you is likely in the Photoshop realm. Most of what else you're doing won't care. That said, I do think multiple cores will help in multitasking if I'm not mistaken. So the weekly spreadsheet foo may get improved and if you run CoH and also websurf while you play, some improvement may be seen there too. But what improvement you'll see with anything is somewhat dependent on your current setup in comparison too.
Another possible consideration is that while you might not really need an i7's horsepower now, you might in future. Plans change, programs change and there might be a day when an i7 or X6 would be a good thing to have. So some investment for the future might not be a bad idea. Worth considering anyways I think.
But beyond that, what are you willing to spend? What's the budget?
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I thought you only needed to run an I7 if you were going to run in CrossFire or SLI modes, if not invest in the I3 or I5
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Originally Posted by Back_Blast
Well one question we might ask is: What do you have now?
Really, the places where a multicore like the X6 and i7 are going to shine the most for you is likely in the Photoshop realm. Most of what else you're doing won't care. That said, I do think multiple cores will help in multitasking if I'm not mistaken. So the weekly spreadsheet foo may get improved and if you run CoH and also websurf while you play, some improvement may be seen there too. But what improvement you'll see with anything is somewhat dependent on your current setup in comparison too. Another possible consideration is that while you might not really need an i7's horsepower now, you might in future. Plans change, programs change and there might be a day when an i7 or X6 would be a good thing to have. So some investment for the future might not be a bad idea. Worth considering anyways I think. But beyond that, what are you willing to spend? What's the budget? |
Oh I have an old Athlon X64 3200 with a 7600GS. (I've been dream building for over a year now but things have changed so much in the last few months I'm behind again.) Trust me when I say it's on it's last leg. The plan is to get a decent dual core put into this, then upgrade to win 7 and a new hd and give it to Jr.
Then I can get a brand new shiney something. I know I won't run crossfire or sli, I just don't have the need for it. Honestly I use Macs at work for most of my photoshop needs. Just thought it'd be nice to have a comp that didn't take 5 minutes to paste in an image (slight hyperbole there).
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And where did you get that crazy idea from? One has nothing to do with the other.
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I thought you only needed to run an I7 if you were going to run in CrossFire or SLI modes, if not invest in the I3 or I5
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Anyone used one yet? I know this game doesn't make use of two cores much less 6. But as a compromise to buying an I7 I was thinking this. It's $300 less than a fairly comparable I7. But I did some Googling and did not come across any direct comparisons.
Is there a comparison that I totally missed?
So what does everyone think? FatherXmas I know you're just waiting to pounce on this!