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For common IOs, this is correct. But for set IOs, the advantage would lie with the set bonuses, which will give an advantage to your character that would outweigh the bonus that the enhancements give, because they're not affected by scaling.
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Originally Posted by Finduilas
In other words, for exemplaring there is no advantage to slotting regular lower level enhancements instead of level 50s, since the scaling is based on your actual level, not on the enhancement level.
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If you're using dual-, triple-, or quad-aspect IOs, you can sometimes ignore scaling altogether.|
Originally Posted by Finduilas
Actually, level 50s would be a better choice because the scaling is applied to the enhancement value, and level 50s have higher values than lower level enhancements.
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1. The Minor Bonus Threshold. The game doesn't scale down bonuses that are small to begin with. Any individual benefits of 20% or less are unaffected by Exemplaring down as far as level 21. Enhancement benefits of 10% or less are unaffected by Exemplaring to levels 11-20. Benefits of 5% or less are never reduced by Exemplaring. Ignore Steps 2 and 3 for each separate bonus you have that's at or below these minimums. This step often comes into play with multi-aspect IOs, especially ones that boost three or four different attributes. |
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| Due to Step 1, you can use up to level 25 Dual-Aspect IOs, level 43 Tri-Aspect IOs, and level 50 Quad-Aspect IOs and suffer no bonus reduction unless you Exemplar to level 20 or lower. (Those breakpoints are only accurate for Schedule A benefits. Schedule B's are higher, C's and D's are lower.) |
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Ah, but I see that the set bonuses work like globals in that you lose the benefit of the bonuses if you exemplar more than three levels below the level of the enhancement. So there is some advantage to slotting lower level set IOs because you're more likely to retain the set bonuses when exemplaring.|
Originally Posted by StarGeek
For common IOs, this is correct. But for set IOs, the advantage would lie with the set bonuses, which will give an advantage to your character that would outweigh the bonus that the enhancements give, because they're not affected by scaling.
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Didn't read down far enough on the page--thanks for pointing that out!
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You have missed something important.|
Originally Posted by Finduilas
In other words, for exemplaring there is no advantage to slotting regular lower level enhancements instead of level 50s, since the scaling is based on your actual level, not on the enhancement level. Actually, level 50s would be a better choice because the scaling is applied to the enhancement value, and level 50s have higher values than lower level enhancements.
Is this correct, or have I missed something important |
As Aggelakis pointed out, sometimes, depending on the size of the enhancement's benefit, there is no scaling done despite the level of teh toon and the level that it mals down to.
And, since an enhancement's level affects the size of its benefit, the level of the enhancement does indeed have an effect.
This is why frankenslotting can be a good bet for a high level toon who plays lower level content--the benefits of triples and quads are in smaller increments and thus they aren't as likely to hit the scaling threshold as a full IO or SO.
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Actually, I did read that part of the ParagonWiki page and understood it, but I wanted to make sure I understood how scaling works for IOs that do get scaled.
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Originally Posted by all_hell
You have missed something important.
As Aggelakis pointed out, sometimes, depending on the size of the enhancement's benefit, there is no scaling done despite the level of teh toon and the level that it mals down to. And, since an enhancement's level affects the size of its benefit, the level of the enhancement does indeed have an effect. This is why frankenslotting can be a good bet for a high level toon who plays lower level content--the benefits of triples and quads are in smaller increments and thus they aren't as likely to hit the scaling threshold as a full IO or SO. |
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Also, keep in mind the bit about ED applying AFTER scaling. So if you are not going to frankenslot, and you are going to exemplar, going over the ED cap might be an option.
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By that I mean the way enhancement values decrease when you exemplar. According to this page on ParagonWiki:
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Exemplar...n_Enhancements
the way you determine the actual scaling is by using 1) the level you are exemplaring to, and 2) your actual level. This is counter-intuitive to me because it implies that the level of the enhancement itself does not matter, just the level of the player. (This is for regular set and common IO enhancements, BTW, I know that globals and procs work differently.)
In other words, for exemplaring there is no advantage to slotting regular lower level enhancements instead of level 50s, since the scaling is based on your actual level, not on the enhancement level. Actually, level 50s would be a better choice because the scaling is applied to the enhancement value, and level 50s have higher values than lower level enhancements.
Is this correct, or have I missed something important? All along, I've thought that if you had say, level 25 enhancements in a power and you exempted down to level 25 you would get full value from those enhancements, but that seems not to be the case.
Could someone please clarify this for me?
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