Utility for calculating attack chains?
By
Bill Z Bubba,
Posted on: 2010-04-23 09:27 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
I know there are some around, i recall seeing a web based one but it requires you to manually enter all data. That means it is always "up to date" though, since you are the one entering the data.
Just want to toss in this though: I never bother with attack chains but attack priority. This means I set my hot-bar sorted by DPAS. I accommodate hot-keys 1,2,3,4 to the highest dpas attacks in my build. After that I just click on them looking what has recharged, giving priority to use on anything that is to the left.
When I feel lazy to pay attention, i just spam tap 1234..1234..1234..1234..etc..etc..etc
The highest DPAS attack recharged will be the first one to activate this way resulting in the best dynamic attack chain for my current build and buffs.
Yeah, I thought there must be something...I Googled and found a few discussions but no actual calculator...and for some reason some Evony calculators, go figure.
Thanks for the advice.
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Do those Evony calculators include some soft-core pics?
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Doesn't Mids have something to help you figure this out?
Personally, I don't see the point and pretty much do the same as Starsman. The problem I see with working out an exacting attack chain is that at some point, probably more often than you want, you're going to end using your most powerful attacks against a foe with only a sliver of hps left. A big waste of power and end.
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Dunno -- I was afraid to click on them. :P
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Originally Posted by Deacon_NA
Do those Evony calculators include some soft-core pics?
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I use excel.
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You only end up doing that if you slavishly obey the chain at all times. Knowing a chain still has value when you know you have the headroom in foe health to execute the chain at least once. This is exceedingly common in fairly ordinary play - bosses, EBs and AVs all qualify, even if you're just fighting them with a team in missions or a TF. While not especially ordinary play, it's not exactly aberrent play to be faced with Hamidon, one of his mitos, or the level 54 mobs in a Rikti ship raid - especially the Rikti Magi.
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
Personally, I don't see the point and pretty much do the same as Starsman. The problem I see with working out an exacting attack chain is that at some point, probably more often than you want, you're going to end using your most powerful attacks against a foe with only a sliver of hps left. A big waste of power and end.
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I use excel.
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I would if I cared.
Quite a few people use Umbral.
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Yep, it does.
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
Doesn't Mids have something to help you figure this out?
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If I was him I'd just tell people how to do it then tell them to do it.
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Originally Posted by SinisterDirge
Quite a few people use Umbral.
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It's kinda hard to tell people how to do it explicitly since a lot of it involves things I've learned through experimentation with the individual sets in question and the mechanics overall.|
Originally Posted by New Dawn
If I was him I'd just tell people how to do it then tell them to do it.
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I've yet to find any attack string calculators out there (and find the entire concept of priority lists in all but a scant few powersets laughably inefficient), but I'm working on one of my own. I've already gotten most of the design down, so, if this summer is as productive as I hope it will be, it should be done soon(tm).
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Originally Posted by ZephyrWind
Yep, it does.
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The builder before Mid's (SherkSilver's Hero/Character Builder) had an attack chain planner, but there's nothing in Mid's that does this specifically.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Is there such a thing as an attack chain calculator utility? Where we coould put in the names of attacks...or at least manually enter the stats for animation time, arcanatime, and global recharge and the recharge in the power, and look for gaps and/or maximize dps? I've been sort of manually figuring with pen and paper, but if there's a better way, it would be nice to know.
If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog