Another Fire/Kin Question

Basically build 1.. or 2? Build 1 focuses on defense and damage, while build 2 focuses on Regen/End/Accuracy and Recharge. I am going to farm (try to atleast). From the looks of it I should farm BM. Anyways. Which Build? ;D TYIA!



Build 1
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mY fIRE bUILD: Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(3), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(3), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(17), Dct'dW-Rchg(23)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- GravAnch-Hold%(A), GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(7), Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(17), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(19), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(23), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(29)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(21), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(21), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def(46), RedFtn-EndRdx(46)
Level 8: Hot Feet -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(9), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(11), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(11)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(13), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(13), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(15), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(15)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(19)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 24: Cinders -- UbrkCons-Dam%(A), UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(25), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(25), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(27), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(27)
Level 26: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 28: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(29), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(39), RctvArm-EndRdx(39), RctvArm-ResDam(43), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(50)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(31), RedFtn-EndRdx(39), RedFtn-Def(40), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- C'Arms-Acc/Rchg(A), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg(33), C'Arms-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), C'Arms-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Transference -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(37), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Fissure -- FrcFbk-Rechg%(A), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(42), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(42), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(42), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(43), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(43)
Level 44: Seismic Smash -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Rock Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Earth's Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 0: Ninja Run



Build 2.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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Fire Kin Farming: Level 50 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- NrncSD-Acc/Rchg(A), NrncSD-EndRdx/Hold(3), NrncSD-Acc/EndRdx(7), NrncSD-Hold/Rng(15), NrncSD-Acc/Hold/Rchg(39), NrncSD-Dam%(40)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(5), Nictus-Acc/Heal(7), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(29), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(A), GravAnch-Acc/Immob/Rchg(3), GravAnch-Acc/Rchg(5), GravAnch-Immob/EndRdx(15), GravAnch-Hold%(34), EndRdx-I(40)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Acc-I(A)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 8: Hot Feet -- Armgdn-Dmg(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(9), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Armgdn-Dam%(37), EndRdx-I(40)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- CtlSpd-Acc/Slow(A), CtlSpd-Rng/Slow(11), CtlSpd-Acc/EndRdx(11), CtlSpd-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(43), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Amaze-Stun/Rchg(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(13), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(13), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(17), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(46)
Level 14: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), RgnTis-Regen+(48), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50), Mrcl-Heal(50)
Level 18: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(23), S'fstPrt-ResKB(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(27), LkGmblr-Rchg+(27)
Level 28: Inertial Reduction -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 30: Cinders -- UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(A), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(31), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(31), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(31), UbrkCons-Dam%(34)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- C'Arms-Acc/Rchg(A), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg(33), C'Arms-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33)
Level 35: Transference -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(37), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Fissure -- Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(42), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Ragnrk-Dmg(43), FrcFbk-Rechg%(43)
Level 44: Seismic Smash -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Rock Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48)
Level 49: Earth's Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 0: Ninja Run

can't open the data links -- and that is just a bunch of mumble jumble to me looking at it like that

Post the data chunks if you want help.

I went def and damage on mine. I went rech but died alot. Since i've resped for def, i like it much more. I also farm the BM map.

I'm not so sure focusing on regen on a controller is helpful. Especially one that has a fast heal. Recharge and accuracy will make the big difference on that build.

A fire/kin can run BM maps with SOs or common IOs rather easily.

How do I export in data chunks? Im new to mids.

Buld 1:

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build 1 for sure...

suggested changes from a quick look:
- Take out grav anch non proc out of fire cages and put another enfebOp in
- Take out absolute amazement from fissure, drop in Ragnarok
- Take out stupefy in flashfire and place absolamaz there
- You have plenty of rech, no need to put rech IOs in EarthsEmb. Drop 3 Heal/Rech in for max effect w/o losing your recharge time -- at the same time this will cap your HP w/o accolades

Thats all I saw at first glance Expensive build, You can do all of that much cheaper only losing 10-20% rech -- nothing you can't fix with siphon

Build 1 looks REALLY close to the build I have.

--Replace Doc Wounds in Transfusion with Touch of the Nictus

--Dont do any of the above suggestions. You don't need 5 Enfeebled, just 4 for the Smash/Lethal defense. You dont need rags in fissure due to fulcrum capping your dmg output. Keep AbsolAmaz in fissure and Stupify in FF. With Accolades, EE caps you with the 3 Rech IOs like you have. No need for heal/rech IOs.

Here's my final build I use for farming just about anything I want to....

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Char
(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold: Level 30
(3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(3) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
(5) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30


Level 1: Transfusion
(A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing: Level 50
(5) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge: Level 50
(7) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing: Level 50
(17) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration: Level 50
(23) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50


Level 2: Fire Cages
(A) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold: Level 50
(7) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge: Level 50
(17) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(19) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize: Level 50
(23) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
(29) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge: Level 50


Level 4: Siphon Power
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 6: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(21) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(21) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
(46) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50


Level 8: Hot Feet
(A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage: Level 30
(9) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing): Level 30
(9) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
(11) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50
(11) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50


Level 10: Siphon Speed
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 12: Flashfire
(A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(13) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun: Level 50
(13) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
(15) Stupefy - Stun/Range: Level 50
(15) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 50


Level 14: Super Jump
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50


Level 16: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50


Level 18: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
(19) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50


Level 20: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50


Level 22: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(37) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(46) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 24: Cinders
(A) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
(25) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge: Level 50
(25) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
(27) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(27) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold: Level 50


Level 26: Boxing
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(31) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(34) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35


Level 28: Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
(29) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30
(39) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(39) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 40
(43) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
(50) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40


Level 30: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(31) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(39) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50
(40) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
(40) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50


Level 32: Fire Imps
(A) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(33) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
(33) Call to Arms - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
(33) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
(34) Call to Arms - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 30


Level 35: Transference
(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
(36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(36) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
(37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50


Level 38: Fulcrum Shift
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 41: Fissure
(A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge: Level 50
(42) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff: Level 50
(42) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge: Level 50
(42) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun: Level 50


Level 44: Seismic Smash
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35


Level 47: Rock Armor
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50


Level 49: Earth's Embrace
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty


Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty


Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty


Level 1: Containment
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Set Bonus Totals:
6.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
6.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
6.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
6.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
6.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
6.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
6.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
6.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
14.3% Defense(Smashing)
14.3% Defense(Lethal)
3% Defense(Fire)
3% Defense(Cold)
6.75% Defense(Energy)
6.75% Defense(Negative)
3% Defense(Psionic)
8.63% Defense(Melee)
4.88% Defense(Ranged)
3% Defense(AoE)
2.25% Max End
3% Enhancement(Stun)
77.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
48% Enhancement(Accuracy)
3% Enhancement(Immobilize)
5% Enhancement(Heal)
106.8 HP (10.5%) HitPoints
Knockback (Mag -8)
Knockup (Mag -8)
MezResist(Immobilize) 11%
22% (0.37 End/sec) Recovery
20% (0.85 HP/sec) Regeneration
1.89% Resistance(Smashing)
1.89% Resistance(Lethal)
7.56% Resistance(Fire)
7.56% Resistance(Cold)
1.88% Resistance(Negative)



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Set Bonuses:
Basilisk's Gaze
(Char)
2.5% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.25% Defense(Ranged)
2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Touch of the Nictus
(Transfusion)
19.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(Heal)
2.25% Max End


Gravitational Anchor
(Fire Cages)
4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery


Enfeebled Operation
(Fire Cages)
3% Enhancement(Immobilize)
1.88% Resistance(Negative)
2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)


Luck of the Gambler
(Combat Jumping)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Red Fortune
(Combat Jumping)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
2% DamageBuff(All)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Stupefy
(Flashfire)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
19.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
3% Enhancement(Stun)
6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Blessing of the Zephyr
(Super Jump)
Knockback Protection (Mag -4)


Unbreakable Constraint
(Cinders)
4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Kinetic Combat
(Boxing)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
15.3 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)


Steadfast Protection
(Tough)
1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
3% Defense(All)
Knockback Protection (Mag -4)


Reactive Armor
(Tough)
MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)


Luck of the Gambler
(Weave)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Red Fortune
(Weave)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
2% DamageBuff(All)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Call to Arms
(Fire Imps)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
15.3 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
1.89% Resistance(Smashing,Lethal)


Efficacy Adaptor
(Transference)
11.4 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
10% (0.42 HP/sec) Regeneration
2.5% DamageBuff(All)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Absolute Amazement
(Fissure)
4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Kinetic Combat
(Seismic Smash)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
15.3 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)


Luck of the Gambler
(Rock Armor)
10% (0.42 HP/sec) Regeneration
11.4 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)






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my suggestions were simply based on recharge, obviously you didn't see that >_> I saw the path they took with the build and looked at optimizing it --They were just suggestions based off a quick observation.


@WA your ignorance on slotting EE is ... impressive. If you had read what I typed you might understand why I say that. Why would you NOT put heals in it when it will recharge just as fast. Not everyone has accolades, plus it makes it an even better heal...