Shiels DDR question.


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Ok, I got a Shield/Ice tank, LvL 41. I just trained Grant Cover. I slotted it for defence, and haven't noticed a change in the powers defence, or DDR level. I KNOW it changes on scrappers. Is this a bug or the way it works for tanks?

Obviously i'm trying to get as much DDR as i can. I accually have a few left over membrains i'm going to use in this build. Aiming for at least 80% or more. (without double stacking AD. My set bonuses are geared for defence and +hp.)

Thanks in advance!


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Originally Posted by KingSnake View Post
Ok, I got a Shield/Ice tank, LvL 41. I just trained Grant Cover. I slotted it for defense, and haven't noticed a change in the powers defense, or DDR level. I KNOW it changes on scrappers. Is this a bug or the way it works for tanks?

Obviously I'm trying to get as much DDR as i can. I actually have a few left over membranes I'm going to use in this build. Aiming for at least 80% or more. (without double stacking AD. My set bonuses are geared for defense and +hp.)

Thanks in advance!
According to Mid's it should give you ~17% DDR; if you're not seeing that then something's not right. My SD/Fire tanker doesn't have it yet at 32 so I can't say for sure, but it definitely affects DDR on my 50 BS/SD scrapper. With double stacked AD loaded with 3 Membranes my scrapper's at the 95% DDR cap... unfortunately I only have enough recharge to be at that exaulted level about 40% of the time .

My tanker doesn't have GC in his build plan until 49, and since he just hit 32 tonight it'll be awhile before I can test it personally.


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According to Mid's it should give you ~17% DDR; if you're not seeing that then something's not right. My SD/Fire tanker doesn't have it yet at 32 so I can't say for sure, but it definitely affects DDR on my 50 BS/SD scrapper. With double stacked AD loaded with 3 Membranes my scrapper's at the 95% DDR cap... unfortunately I only have enough recharge to be at that exaulted level about 40% of the time .

My tanker doesn't have GC in his build plan until 49, and since he just hit 32 tonight it'll be awhile before I can test it personally.

It gives about 17% DDR at lvl 50 yes. But what I'm saying is, unlike the scrapper version of the power, slotting it with defence doesn't increase the powers DDR. ( I know it does with scrappers, i checked last night. I have a BS/SD and a fire/SD) I'm wondering if that's the way it is supposed to be for tanks. As in, the slotting of GC doesn't add DDR. Or ally defence as far as i can tell. It shows the power has gained a defencive buff, but there is no value for defence to start with. I'm thinking it's a bug in the games number display, so I'm wondering if i have more DDR then it was showing when i had defence slotted... I'd like to know which cause that'll determine how i slot the power. If i can get more DDR out of it with slotting, I'll slot it. If not, i won't. My Ally's shouldn't need too much extra defence if I'm taking the beating.

I think I'll get ~ 70% DDR at lvl 50 with just AD (one stack no HO's.), GC(unslotted), and Battle agility slotted. (slotting BA does increase shields DDR. Or so the game says.) Which isn't bad i think. I've got 2 left over Membranes in my bins i can add to AD (does adding a membrane to the tanker version up DDR? can someone confrim?) That would prolly give me a good bump, and may be all i really NEED for DDR. capping it would be nice, but 80ish% would prolly be good enough. I may buy another membrane just for completeness sake. I'm funny that way.


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Checking on my SD tanker right now :

GC with one lotg def/global rech gives me 17.3% DDR.
AD with two membranes gives me 30.27% DDR (stackable).
BA with 57% def enhancement gives me 27.17% DDR.


 

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Checking on my SD tanker right now :

GC with one lotg def/global rech gives me 17.3% DDR.
AD with two membranes gives me 30.27% DDR (stackable).
BA with 57% def enhancement gives me 27.17% DDR.

So, no, defence doesn't seem to incress your DDR for GC. That LOTG would have raised it above the base, and 17.3 is the base at 50 IIRC. Intresting.

And what you have, will prolly be close to what i have in terms of DDR. ~ 74% (one stacked AD.) I could prolly live with that. I'd be softcapped to all postions, 75% DDR, 45% S/L resistence, and over 2700 HP base, and capped HP with one with the shield running. (and 85% S/L resists.) That could prolly get me past the LR in the STF with a few purples for a buffer zone. I hope.


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Brute Shield / Grant Cover

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RES(Defense) +13.84% for 0.75s [Non-resistable]
Effect does not stack from same caster
Scrapper Shield / Grant Cover
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RES(Defense) +13.84% for 0.75s [Non-resistable]
Effect does not stack from same caster
TankerShield / Grant Cover
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RES(Defense) +17.3% for 0.75s [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs] [Non-resistable]
Effect does not stack from same caster
City of Data agrees with you. I'd definitely call that a bug - whether it's a Brute/Scrapper bug or a Tanker bug is a different question, though!


 

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So, no, defence doesn't seem to incress your DDR for GC. That LOTG would have raised it above the base, and 17.3 is the base at 50 IIRC. Intresting.

And what you have, will prolly be close to what i have in terms of DDR. ~ 74% (one stacked AD.) I could prolly live with that. I'd be softcapped to all postions, 75% DDR, 45% S/L resistence, and over 2700 HP base, and capped HP with one with the shield running. (and 85% S/L resists.) That could prolly get me past the LR in the STF with a few purples for a buffer zone. I hope.
I was under the impression that DDR could only be increased via the HO bug on any Shield AT.

I dropped GC recently so that I could fit in the Fire Epic I don't believe the DDR changed with a standard Defence IO. I've got 3 HO in AD which give me 95% DDR when double stacked (about 80%) of the time and around 70% the rest of the time.

It was my intention to slot 3 Def/Endred HO's in Battle Agility to increase the DDR during the AD doublestack downtime, I assume this will work.


L50s: Tanks: Cryofission - Ice/EM - Dr Celsius - Fire/Ice - Saint George - SD/SS | Controllers: Psichosis - Ill/Kin - Major Chaos - Ill/Stm | Scrappers - Neutron Crusader - DM/SR

Currently Levelling: Angelic Blade - BS/WP Scrapper | Seeds of Destruction - Plant/Kin Controller

 

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Shield has a Dance Dance Revolution power???


I have to get back on test and check that out.




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