Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk
Personally I don't think the ideas are that bad. They are not impossible to do with the current system ether.
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New Travel Pools
It's not going to happen.
The devs know the system - clearly - better than you, and they have REPEATEDLY stated how bad these things are for the engine. They MIGHT be able to dedicate a room full of people for a year or so to get tunneling or swinging to work with the current system, but frankly that is NOT worth their effort or time.
Because then they'd have to balance it, make it work in pvp AND pve, make it possible for every character using it to do the same things that every other travel power does (ie: stairs, water, rooftops... pick a feature). And then test it.
Sorry - but no. They've already said they don't want to add certain things, and these are among them. They LOOK STUPID, they DON'T ADD to the game.
I agree with another earlier post: I'd like to see 'elemental' versions of flight or leaping, or just the option to add those effects instead of having a whole power-set based on things. A SERIOUS flame trail from a fire-based flight, bubbly bubbles from a water-type, ice trail, etc. THOSE are things which work perfectly well in the game already, and wouldn't require balance issues OR the kind of manpower and effort to bug-test it, and it would open up huge visual improvements to boot.
It IS a Standard Code Rant applicable situation. YOU clearly do NOT understand the issues as presented by the devs. You aren't a developer of this game, are you? NO? Well then - perhaps you should listen to what Posi and the other devs have told you, and maybe concentrate your idea efforts on things OTHER than the ones which have come up time and time again (tunneling and swinging what a surprise), to come up with something NEW.
** Think about the engine as it is. Not the engine as you WANT or WISH it to be. How things get done in this game and no other. Just because some Other Game does it, doesn't mean DIDDLY.
** Think about the process that must be done in order to put ANYTHING into the game, let alone something which uses a completely NEW or different method or programming. Start to finish, every little thing in this game has to work WITH everything else, and mix perfectly, not look out of place, and not do things which imbalance it from the other existing powers.
** Think about how anything new might imbalance the PLAY, let alone the power of any given character over another. Will one travel power be so slow or laggy that it disturbs the flow of play for a team? (as mentioned above, going through DOORS made it harder!) Will the graphics/engine require something more than the most basic playable computer system? Any changes to the very basic stuff is to be completely discounted. It MUST run on the basic systems, may have bonus extras that work on higher end.
... There are so many things to think about for suggestions. I'd recommend considering them before sticking your foot back into your mouth and suggesting something that's not only been brought up a zillion times before, but have also been repeatedly slammed down by the devs themselves. They know their limits. You do too, if only you'd read.
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Also, about the rest of the pool:
Tunneling: -*some single target attack* -Burrow: placate power, similar to ninjitsu/smoke bomb, but not as strong -Tunnel: travel power, +stealth, +speed, -jump, only affects self -Soft Sand: you can only activate it while tunneling. PBAoE immob (mag3). This will be the only attack you can activate while tunneling. |
Unless you guys are arguing about different things, which is believable: The swinging really wouldn't work. Even if it was just fly with ropes, you'd need to create points all over the place that would somehow be auto-targeted by the swing power, and you wouldn't be traveling in arcs.
Just because the Devs are not going to do it, does not mean it isn't a good idea. I don't like getting rough this early on to a new community but, you should be sticking to subject, as this has nothing to do with my thread, or I will report you for harassment and possibly stalking. This online community seems to be rather harsh compared to the others I have been on.
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However it doesn't account for tunneling through iron, on fire-escapes, or in the water.
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And again, in the spirit of digging through structural steel and fire escapes, what about digging through BUILDINGS? I mean, conceivably that could be done, but can you really imagine the implications of something like this?
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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