Updater and Patches


Fleeting Whisper

 

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I don't post often, however I frequent the forums alot (understatement).

My biggest pet peave is unanounced patches, and the reason is 2 fold.

1. The updater opened Internet Explporer instead of the default browser. This is not an issue when goiing to the store or other options that take you out of the game to a browser. Only the links on the upater have this "feature". This should be fixed for those of that stopped trusting IE around say 1997.

2. Why is the game patching today. Why isn't it listed in the patch note's web page, linked in the updater? I definitly received a patch today and am currently installing it however the patch notes haven't updated since March 18. Why?


Please excuse any typos as IE8 still doesn't have automatic spell checker and I've become reliant on it over the years. Sad I know.

Thanks for reading


 

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2. Why is the game patching today. Why isn't it listed in the patch note's web page, linked in the updater? I definitly received a patch today and am currently installing it however the patch notes haven't updated since March 18. Why?
Patch notes don't go up until after the patch is working and not causing major issues on all Live Servers. This is as it has always been. That means there's usually a lag of several hours between when the servers go down, come back up, and the notes are posted.

Not to mention that they don't give notes when the patch consists of exploit fix(es). If that's all thats in today's patch we may not get notes on it at all.

PS- check Announcements. Your patch notes went up while you were posting.


"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill

 

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As Lemur Lad stated, they don't post pre-patch notes if they are correcting an exploit. After all, if they told us what they were fixing several hours before they brought the servers down I would imagine a lot of people would then go use this exploit.

As well as that, if the patch didn't successfully correct the exploit, anyone who frequents the forums would now be aware of it.

Bottom line is, if they don't tell us before they patch it then most likely, in fact I would insist all the time, it is a correction of an exploit.

Fury


 

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As Lemur Lad stated, they don't post pre-patch notes if they are correcting an exploit. After all, if they told us what they were fixing several hours before they brought the servers down I would imagine a lot of people would then go use this exploit.

As well as that, if the patch didn't successfully correct the exploit, anyone who frequents the forums would now be aware of it.

Bottom line is, if they don't tell us before they patch it then most likely, in fact I would insist all the time, it is a correction of an exploit.

Fury
My point is that the Updater links to Patch notes not the announcement page of the forums. It be nice to put a place holder there like, Currently fixing an exploit more details on completion. Or something more professional anyway. Also looking at the patch notes, it was fixing exploits most everyone knew about anyway.

Besides that Ocho posted that before I logged in. Why not the patch notes? The forums is nice and all I do hang around, but the game updater links to

http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/patch_notes/

It does not link to

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=216677

Thats the point. These patches the updater is performing are not considered patches and are indefinable from the updater. That just seems sketchy and stealth nerfing unless you know enough to go to the announcement section of the forums.

Not every player reads the forums


 

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1. The updater opened Internet Explporer instead of the default browser. This is not an issue when goiing to the store or other options that take you out of the game to a browser. Only the links on the upater have this "feature". This should be fixed for those of that stopped trusting IE around say 1997.
I agree that it's frustrating. Hell, I can even dig up the command to do it on Windows (though I'm not so certain on Mac/Linux). But c'est la vie; the updater is a different program than the game, and while I'm not a fan of arbitrarily opening Internet Explorer from the updater, I'd prefer development focus on the game, rather than something relatively trivial like links in the updater.


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2. Why is the game patching today. Why isn't it listed in the patch note's web page, linked in the updater? I definitly received a patch today and am currently installing it however the patch notes haven't updated since March 18. Why?
Why is the game patching today? Because today is Wednesday, and if you bother to check the server status page, you would find out that today is maintenance day, the day when patches go on if patches are going on at all. More specifically:

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Changes to the Server Maintenance Times

As of Thursday, October 22nd, the regular bi-weekly server maintenance times will be modified and will take place once a week on Thursday from 4:00 AM Pacific / 7:00 AM Eastern to 6:00 AM Pacific / 9:00 AM Eastern.
As for when the patch notes will be on... Eventually. They've never been good about updating their actual site, but it's also very rarely drastically important to read the patch notes from what I've found. What do you expect happened that you need to know about NOW?


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What do you expect happened that you need to know about NOW?
Dey nerft ar farmz!


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Dey nerft ar farmz!
What, again? Damit!


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Or something more professional anyway.
You consider it unprofessional to not have patch notes up in the place you look at the time you look for them.

I consider it unprofessional to put up patch notes before every department has cleared them and the engineers say the patch is applied and the servers are running fine.

Last thing I'll mention is, that last I knew, the website admin still happened out of NCAustin, not at Paragon Studios. I could be wrong, but if I'm not, that means another person on a different schedule and their own procedures for adding things to the site.

Not sure if you've ever worked in a big company, but really, this kind of back and forth that leads to a few hours difference in completion times, is not unusual.


"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill