Don't worry about Aim wearing off before RoA hits; your hit roll is determined the moment you click the attack button, not after the animation finishes. That's why sometimes you'll see someone with super strength hurl a boulder at someone who'd run around a corner, only for the boulder to change direction and go through the wall. The attack already determined that it was going to hit, and the laws of physics happily comply. Along that same vein, your +to hit and +dam will still be in effect by the time RoA finishes (besides which fact is, it lasts for 10 seconds. RoA animates in 3 seconds, so you're good)
If you plan on using RoA as part of your attack chain, i'd definitely look at some End Redux. True, the atatck doesn't drain all your end like most nukes, but 20 points is pretty heafty. Maintaining an attack chain after that is going to leave you pretty winded.
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Thanks for the reassurance, Steele. It's good to know.
I'll consider putting an end reducer in the power. Perhaps Stamina isn't enough? 
Again, I appreciate your help!
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I wouldn't bother with endurance reduction in RoA. Using standard enhancements you'll only get it down to a 30 second recharge. Persoanlly i never bother with endurance reduction in any power I'll be using that infrequently.
Personally in an SO or common IO build I'd give it 3 recharge reduction and 3 damage enhancement. It's got a 1.6 base accuracy modifier so it's effectively got 2 accuracy SOs in it already.
Some people like to only stick a single recharge enhancer in there because that keeps it's recharge roughly the same as ED capped Aim (45 seconds). There is some validity to that approach but personally I prefer to have RoA up as often as possible and if Aim isn't up I just use a couple of red inspirations before casting.
Also, Aim lasts for 10seconds and the casting time of RoA is 4seconds so you've got a bit of flexibility and can get another attack or two off after RoA that will still benefit from Aim.
Adeon, thanks for your input. Refreshing news about it having a fairly good accuracy.
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I had to bring it up and test this out just to make sure... but that's not how Rain of Arrows works. Most powers work that way (Self Destruct being a notable and clear example, with its tremendous animation time), but Rain of Arrows does not. I assume it's because a "Psuedo pet" is summoned at the end of the animation and THAT begins attacking.|
Originally Posted by EmperorSteele
Don't worry about Aim wearing off before RoA hits; your hit roll is determined the moment you click the attack button, not after the animation finishes. That's why sometimes you'll see someone with super strength hurl a boulder at someone who'd run around a corner, only for the boulder to change direction and go through the wall. The attack already determined that it was going to hit, and the laws of physics happily comply. Along that same vein, your +to hit and +dam will still be in effect by the time RoA finishes (besides which fact is, it lasts for 10 seconds. RoA animates in 3 seconds, so you're good)
If you plan on using RoA as part of your attack chain, i'd definitely look at some End Redux. True, the attack doesn't drain all your end like most nukes, but 20 points is pretty heafty. Maintaining an attack chain after that is going to leave you pretty winded. |
It won't be a problem against most foes, cause most of them when they catch wind of your presence will go through their own ranged attacks, holding them in place. However, if they are running at you when you begin the animation and are out of the target zone at the end of the animation, you will not hit. It will not even check to hit.
I don't know if the psuedo pet inherits Aim because it was on when you began animating, however. Like EmperorSteele said though, the 10 second duration should be just fine for a 3 second power.
I would do 3 damage, 1 accuracy, 2 recharge reductions if I went with SOs or Common IOs. Frankenslotting some set pieces with end redux and accuracy might not be a bad idea though (focusing primarily on damage and recharge).
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Rain of Arrows does NOT have an accuracy bonus. The accuracy bonus shown under real numbers does not apply to the pseudo-pet summoned by the power, just like how ice storm and fire rain do not really have an accuracy bonus. Slotting for accuracy would be a good idea, unless you plan on always using the power alongside aim and/or build up, in which case you wouldn't need any accuracy slotting.
Its a psuedo pet? oh wow, Didn't know that! That changes a few things. Still, if you open up with the power, you shouldn't have to worry about the dudes all running off within 4 seconds.
BTW, sorry for the double-post before!
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Based on my testing you appear to be correct, I filed a bug report on it but no clue if they'll actually look at it.
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Originally Posted by Garent
Rain of Arrows does NOT have an accuracy bonus. The accuracy bonus shown under real numbers does not apply to the pseudo-pet summoned by the power, just like how ice storm and fire rain do not really have an accuracy bonus. Slotting for accuracy would be a good idea, unless you plan on always using the power alongside aim and/or build up, in which case you wouldn't need any accuracy slotting.
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It didn't occur to me until I read this thread and did some digging around. I hypothesize that all drop type powers are actually pet summons of one sort or another.
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Originally Posted by EmperorSteele
Its a psuedo pet? oh wow, Didn't know that!
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Yeah, basically anything that requires a targeting reticle to cast and creates a short-lived, fixed-location AoE effect is summoning a pseudopet. As such, they generally inherit buffs running on the caster at the time of summoning (like Aim) for the remaining duration of the buff on the caster. Aim + RoA will buff the tohit/damage of the RoA ticks, as long as RoA wasn't cast right at the end of Aim's duration (although any other conventional attack, like Blazing Arrow, will keep the effects of Aim as long as the animation started before the Aim buff faded).
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Originally Posted by Garent
It didn't occur to me until I read this thread and did some digging around. I hypothesize that all drop type powers are actually pet summons of one sort or another.
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Rule number six of an empathy defender is NEVER underestimate a blaster's ability to die. I don't care if he has CM, Fort, both RAs, bubbles (both FF and Sonic), and is fighting next to a Storm defender with hurricane on. If there is a way to die in that situation, the blaster will find it.
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Yes, the pet gets the Aim damage and acc buff. Trust me on this. Since my arch blaster doesn't have it slotted yet, I see it doing x2 damage almost with AIm activated first. Still get the bonus from Aim with other attacks too.
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Originally Posted by Gilia
I don't know if the psuedo pet inherits Aim because it was on when you began animating, however. Like EmperorSteele said though, the 10 second duration should be just fine for a 3 second power.
I would do 3 damage, 1 accuracy, 2 recharge reductions if I went with SOs or Common IOs. Frankenslotting some set pieces with end redux and accuracy might not be a bad idea though (focusing primarily on damage and recharge). |
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Thank you all for the continued information.
Hmm, I may try to slot at least one accuracy into it... in the off chance I can't use Aim first. I'll have to play around with it.
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On my A/Dev blaster it's fairly accurate. But then I also have targeting drone up constantly. It's base ACC is rather good too.
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Thank you all for the continued information.
Hmm, I may try to slot at least one accuracy into it... in the off chance I can't use Aim first. I'll have to play around with it. |
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Actually see the comment by Garent above. The base accuracy is actually worse than the rest of the archery set.
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Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
On my A/Dev blaster it's fairly accurate. But then I also have targeting drone up constantly. It's base ACC is rather good too.
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Hello all and happy Easter (if you happen to celebrate it)
My TA/A has reached level 38 and I'm VERY happy with RoA. I am very close to lvl 39 where I can finally get to slot it...but even out of the box, it's pretty impressive.
I have a few questions regarding it:
1. For an attack chain, what do you suggest?
Currently, I'm doing Disruption Arrow > Aim > RoA.
I realize I can also use EMP Arrow first to hold the baddies, but I figure that would be better used with my Oil Slick Arrow/Ignite.
2. RoA has quite an animation... if I hit Aim RIGHT before it, are the good effects of Aim not available to me by the time the RoA hits? (ie. am I wasting my time with Aim before the RoA?)
3. What do you suggest I slot RoA with? I'm thinking: 1 Acc/3 Rech Red/2 Damage. Should I scrap the ACC since I will be using Aim and sub it for another damage?
4. Any other advice for using RoA most effectively?
Thanks, in advance!
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