Help needed to soft cap first SD scrapper.

MrWallace · 03-28-2010 10:11 AM

Hi all i am currently working on my first SD scrapper. Going for a BS/SD and loving it. However, I am struggling to softcap him in mids (see build below). Can anyone tell me were I am going wrong also is it posabile to hit the softcap and have hover and fly instead of CJ and SJ? Would be better for the concept if he could fly. Any help would be greatly appreciated even if it just a point to a build link.

Thanks all

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Kaine Le Fay: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack

(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
(33) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(40) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(40) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 1: Deflection

(A) Red Fortune - Defense
(5) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(5) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
(31) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
(31) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Red Fortune - Endurance

Level 2: Slice

(A) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage
(7) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance
(7) Multi Strike - Damage/Recharge
(25) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance
(45) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

Level 4: True Grit

(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(9) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
(9) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(43) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(43) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 6: Battle Agility

(A) Red Fortune - Defense
(11) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(11) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
(42) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
(42) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Red Fortune - Endurance

Level 8: Combat Jumping

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(13) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(13) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 10: Parry

(A) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(15) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
(15) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
(17) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(17) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(25) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage

Level 12: Active Defense

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 14: Hurdle

(A) Titan:Selenite Shard

Level 16: Health

(A) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(19) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
(19) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance

Level 18: Whirling Sword

(A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(23) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
(23) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(46) Obliteration - Damage
(46) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(46) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 20: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(21) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge

Level 22: Against All Odds

(A) Empty

Level 24: Phalanx Fighting

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 26: Disembowel

(A) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(27) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(27) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(29) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
(29) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
(48) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge

Level 28: Super Jump

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(31) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 30: Build Up

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(36) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(36) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 32: Head Splitter

(A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(33) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
(36) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
(37) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
(37) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 35: Shield Charge

(A) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage
(37) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance
(39) Multi Strike - Damage/Recharge
(39) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance
(39) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(40) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

Level 38: Boxing

(A) Empty

Level 41: Conserve Power

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Physical Perfection

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(48) Miracle - +Recovery
(50) Miracle - Heal/Recharge

Level 47: Tough

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(48) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance

Level 49: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

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Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Empty

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals:

18% DamageBuff(Smashing)
18% DamageBuff(Lethal)
18% DamageBuff(Fire)
18% DamageBuff(Cold)
18% DamageBuff(Energy)
18% DamageBuff(Negative)
18% DamageBuff(Toxic)
18% DamageBuff(Psionic)
9.88% Defense(Smashing)
9.88% Defense(Lethal)
10.8% Defense(Fire)
10.8% Defense(Cold)
15.5% Defense(Energy)
15.5% Defense(Negative)
3% Defense(Psionic)
16.8% Defense(Melee)
28% Defense(Ranged)
18.6% Defense(AoE)
6% Enhancement(Heal)
18% Enhancement(Accuracy)
30% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
10% FlySpeed
155.6 HP (11.6%) HitPoints
10% JumpHeight
10% JumpSpeed
Knockback (Mag -8)
Knockup (Mag -8)
MezResist(Held) 12.7%
MezResist(Immobilize) 13.8%
MezResist(Sleep) 3.3%
MezResist(Stun) 5.5%
6.5% (0.11 End/sec) Recovery
32% (1.79 HP/sec) Regeneration
4.41% Resistance(Fire)
4.41% Resistance(Cold)
3.13% Resistance(Negative)
14% RunSpeed

Call Me Awesome · 03-28-2010 12:05 PM

Here's how I did it with my BS/SD.

First, all single target attacks including Parry got a full set of Mako's Bite to build Ranged defense (excepting Boxing... it's an unused prereq)
Second, all AOE attacks got 5 Scirocco's Dervish to build AOE defense.

That slotting, plus BotZ two slotted twice, put me at 47% Melee (one parry), 45.8% Ranged and 44.6% AOE. This does include the bonus from CJ; loosing it puts me at 45.2% Melee, 43.9% Range & 42.7% AOE. By the way, those are the numbers with the nerfed BotZ, and I only slotted the travel and travel/end IO's skipping the KB protection.

I slotted all my defenses with 4 Gift of the Ancients for the endurance bonuses, and Deflection also got a pair of common resist IO's. True Grit got the Steadfast unique, a pair of common resist and three Miracle including the unique. Yes, it could be improved on but it's worked out for me.

I also have Grant Cover for the debuff resistance and as another GotA mule and One with the Shield for when things turn pear shaped.

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MrWallace · 03-28-2010 01:02 PM

Many thank Awesome, your invin tanking guide has helped my build my favorate and toughest tank and now it looks like your advice will do the same for my scarpper.

Thanks again

Twilight_Snow · 03-28-2010 02:19 PM

Actually, your build is soft-capped, just that you've to six-slot many powers to acquire the bonus. It's ok, but it seems like you can't slot powers in the way that you want in order to get the bonus.

I changed the slotting of your build. The power choice is kept, but I swap in hover and fly. It would be great to have grant cover for the defense debuff resistance and one with the shield. But the build is tight, so you've to give up something if you want to grab those powers. I think you probably want to take more time to finalize your build.

My build has soft-capped melee defense without parry (very close to the cap for ranged and aoe after the BotZ adjustment). It's up to you whether you want to rely on parry or not. I think it's more fun to play without always worrying about parrying.

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Kaine Le Fay: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), T'Death-Dam%(40), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 1: Deflection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(5), ResDam-I(5), GftotA-Def(31), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(31), HO:Cyto(45)
Level 2: Slice -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(7), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(25), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45)
Level 4: True Grit -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(9), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(9), Numna-Heal(43), Heal-I(43)
Level 6: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(11), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42)
Level 8: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(13), Zephyr-ResKB(13), Srng-EndRdx/Fly(37)
Level 10: Parry -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mako-Acc/Dmg(25)
Level 12: Active Defense -- EndRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 14: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 18: Whirling Sword -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(21), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(23), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(23), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(21), EndMod-I(40)
Level 22: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Disembowel -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Mako-Acc/Dmg(27), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 28: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(31), Zephyr-ResKB(42)
Level 30: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(34), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(34), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(34), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(36), GSFC-Build%(36)
Level 32: Head Splitter -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(33), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(33), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(36), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(46)
Level 38: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(45), EndMod-I(50)
Level 47: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(48), HO:Ribo(48)
Level 49: Weave -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(50), HO:Cyto(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 0: Ninja Run

MrWallace · 03-29-2010 03:29 AM

Hi Twilgith thanks for the build, you are right it is a tight build. I am thinking about how to crame grant cover into the build. I think it would be a big help as myself and Mrs Wallace play two BS/SD scrapper as a duo (which has been a blast so far 29 lvs and counting). Do you think the concept can work without the extra stam from Pysical Perfection, as I was thinking about droping it for grant cover. Any help with power selection would be a big help as very new to sheilds. Again thank for all the help.

Twilight_Snow · 03-29-2010 09:37 AM

I believe endurance can be an issue when you start to add more toggles as you level up. You probably can have more fun with ample amount of endurance. If you don't mind having a minimal attack chain, you can drop slice. Parry is a very fast recharging power which you can use as a filler, and I think you have sufficient AoE attacks.

You can take a look at the build below and see if it's satistory. I don't really want to use HO, but slots are tight. You can actually slot active defense with HO, which can raise the defense debuff resistance of the power. Hopefully, the build won't break your wallet.

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Kaine Le Fay: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), T'Death-Dam%(40), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 1: Deflection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(5), ResDam-I(5), GftotA-Def(31), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(31), HO:Cyto(45)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), HO:Cyto(7)
Level 4: True Grit -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(9), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(9), Numna-Heal(11), Heal-I(11)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(13), Zephyr-ResKB(13), Srng-EndRdx/Fly(37)
Level 10: Parry -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mako-Acc/Dmg(25)
Level 12: Active Defense -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(19), HO:Membr(19), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(25), Zephyr-ResKB(31)
Level 16: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 18: Whirling Sword -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(21), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(23), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(23), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(21), EndMod-I(40)
Level 22: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Disembowel -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Mako-Acc/Dmg(27), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 28: Grant Cover -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), HO:Cyto(43)
Level 30: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(34), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(34), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(34), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(36), GSFC-Build%(36)
Level 32: Head Splitter -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(33), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(33), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(36), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(46)
Level 38: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(45), EndMod-I(45)
Level 47: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(48), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Aegis-ResDam(50)
Level 49: Weave -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(50), HO:Cyto(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 0: Ninja Run

UberGuy · 03-29-2010 11:24 AM

Bear in mind that Blessing of the Zephyr will change in I17, losing about 2% ranged defense per set and 1.5% AoE per set.

Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

Mercator · 03-29-2010 03:51 PM

Just my two-cents on your build above, Twilight.

I'd swap Hurdle for Swift. Not a lot of call for jumping when you can fly.

Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome.
Isaac Asimov

MrWallace · 03-30-2010 02:00 PM

Thanks for all the build help so far, the changes to BotZ are a pain but sure I can work around it. I was thinking is there anway I could pick up Manouvers from the leadership pool instead of taking the fighting pool and still hit the Def Cap? This would free 2 powers so I could take Grant Cover and still fit in Slice (which I just love). Does any one have a build not using the fighting pool to softcap?

Any how thanks again for all the help.

Reyne_Maker · 03-31-2010 02:57 AM

you're not choosing the fighting pool for Weave, you're choosing it for Tough (& Weave),

with that said, and the coming BotZ changes, is Fly droppable?

MrWallace · 03-31-2010 06:22 AM

Can live with out fly but no a travel power, ninja run on its own is just not enough lol. I see what you mean, but have seen a few tank builds just using Leadership pool but maybe that only works for tanks. Still loving this toon but scraching my head on how to soft cap with the BotZ changes and keeping stam and recharge up and to squess in Grant Cover. Back to the drawing board for me is seems.

MrWallace · 04-01-2010 10:29 AM

kk I think I have done it and squezed in Grant Cover, can you guys please take a look at the build and let me know if I have gimped it or miss read Mids. Thanks again all

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Kaine Le Fay: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack

(A) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(3) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
(33) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
(40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge