FM/WP Brute for AV's / GM's / Duels


black_barrier

 

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I am trying to build a FM/WP Brute in mids, but it's all guess work and I don't seem to be having much luck. I see a lot of SS/WP brute builds in here and cant seem to mod them for FM.

She is currently lvl 22, but I want a lvling plan so I dont have to respec over and over, that gets costly.

Cost is of no importance, I have a few toons I can raid and recently got a few drops in RV with my MM worth a 1.5 to 2 billion each.

Here is what I have so far (sad I know)

I would like to stick with those attacks (single target only, and high DPS)

Would love to have both SS and SJ, but dont think thats possible being that I need utmost survivability.


Critique anyone?



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I would design an AV build and a Dueling build completely differently.

For starters, I'd stack typed defense on an AV build to increase my survivability. Stacking defense in PvP on a WP is silly, so I'd stack HP instead for a dueling build. So, your two goals are at odds.

Honestly, I'd just stack HP if you'll be doing more dueling, and grab some accuracy.

ATM, I don't have time to critique your build, but there are plenty of helpful people around that will be glad to do so.


 

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Definitely more PvP based, thats for sure. Hmm, now how to up the HP and regen then.

TY Tonality.


 

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A lot of those PvP IO's aren't readily available on the market.

Mids has a feature called the 'set bonus finder' which is under the window menu. You can then easily see all the IO sets available to offer +HP and begin to better examine your build. ATM, I'm heading to bed, so I can't offer much advice right now.

The only thing I see at a quick glance is hit the ED cap for HP in High Pain Tolerance.


 

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a /wp is not great in pvp.


 

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hmm, I have seen a few that are near godly... and I dont want another SR or Regen, I have both as scrappers, I get ragged on a lot over the regen and the SR is rather boring.

This is my second villian!! I wanna smash! lol


Anyway, I still am fighting with Mids... I hate this program, it's smarter than me!


 

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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post
a /wp is not great in pvp.
It's not great against AVs, either.


 

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Originally Posted by Empathika View Post
hmm, I have seen a few that are near godly... and I dont want another SR or Regen, I have both as scrappers, I get ragged on a lot over the regen and the SR is rather boring.

This is my second villian!! I wanna smash! lol

Anyway, I still am fighting with Mids... I hate this program, it's smarter than me!
Willpower's strength lies in Rise to the Challenge, which is incredibly effective fighting multiple mobs. However, against AV's and in PvP, neither one of these encounters really offers the regen buffs needed to stay alive.

For soloing an AV, stacking appreciable levels of defense, you can possibly herd up some even-con minions and let them boost your defense. However, you are still playing with fire here. A couple lucky rolls and you'll be hurting. There is no way I'll be able to make a fire/WP build that can even come close to performing like my DM/SD for single-target survivability.

Instead, play to your strengths. Build up some decent HP to improve your regen. Maybe stack on some defense to increase your survivability, and just have fun soloing ??/8 maps on it.


 

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Starting to get the hang of Mids... here is my latest incarnation for a FM/WP Brute.

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Your buid lacks the regen and hp for duels and as for def you should not even bother taking it for pvp


 

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Originally Posted by Empathika View Post
Starting to get the hang of Mids... here is my latest incarnation for a FM/WP Brute.
When posting builds, don't use demonic, or force of nature, as it makes it difficult to quickly ascertain the capability of the actual build. Auto-accos are ok, but the others really distort things. Even moreso with the temp powers you activated. That really skewed your numbers, as I was looking at the sets and your 42% S/L defense after I turned off demonic and still wondering how you managed that without a single Kinetic Combat.

Onto the build:

I like to play the market and farm from time to time. I don't have the cashflow or inclination to invest this much into a build, especially with those PvP IO's. I hope you either stockpiled them up before they were available and affordable, or you really will be hard-pressed to get those.

One key thing you are lacking is substantial knockback protection. Anyone with KoB will send you flying, and any person with a good knockout power is going to be able to keep you from attacking very well. Ideally you want around 42 KB protection. Yes, 42.

You want an interrupt in Aid Self. Unlike PvE, you're fighting an intelligent player and if they know they can keep you from healing, they will.

Web Envelope is better for PvP than mace blast. Actually, taunt is also useful, as you'll be more of a taunt bot. For dueling, I suppose neither are necessary.

Using Numinas over generic heal IO's in health adds more hp/regen.


 

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I have no idea how to get more HP out of my /wp mind showing me a build that does so I can get some ideas, and how do you get 42 KB protect?

I have many PvP sets on hand, from "back when" and some on other toons I am going to steal.

Part of the issue I keep having is the no more than 5 of the same bonus rule. Also I can't find in Mds where it shows totals like 2400hp or w/e just the %'s


 

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If you look at the group of 6 buttons above your power selection area and to the left of the slotting area you use, you'll see one called View Totals. Click that and hold your mouse over Max HP.

Anyway, check out the Apocalypse set for the first two set bonuses. So it might be a good idea to get a few more slots in mace blast for the HP. I suppose I did recommend web envelope though. Yeah, web envelope is nice. The cheaper option of that is the devasation set.

Also, the only benefit you get from the 'heal' set bonus is when you fire aid-self, so focus on +HP/regen, not heal.

Titanium armor has a +HP bonuse at 3. I love reactive armor, but your defense you're getting isn't that great from the set, and if you're focusing on PvP, it's not that important anyway.

Quick Recovery and Stamina can get a HP bonus at 3 perf-shifters. Ideally, adding a 4th slot to the two really helps your endurance.

Anyway, if you're looking to spend this much on a PvP toon, I really would want to point you to invulnerability. You'll be able to get a LOT more HP out of that, and pairing it with dark for siphon life or superstrength for rage will really get more out of your investment than the fire/wp.

Sure you can make it good at pvp, but if you're wanting to invest a lot, why not go for a better platform by which to PvP with? I mean, it's like wanting to build a ford pinto for racing when you could just as easily race with a porsche.

Anyway, if you do want to make that character perform better, you should be able to squeeze in at least another 300 HP.