I'm not sure how possible it is to actually softcap Thugs/Dark, though an effective soft cap after factoring in to-hit debuffs from Fearsome Stare and Darkest Night is easily acheivable.
best I could come up with, after tinkering with mids a bit, was this setup:
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or even:
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Probably not the best solutions out there, but might be okay as a general guideline
http://www.scene-and-heard.com/cov/covsig.jpg
It's a start!!
Thank you both for the reply's, and tyvm for the builds. Tinkering with them now
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My latest attempt at modding one of those builds, any opinions anyone? Where can I improve on this?
I just softcapped my Thugs/Dark to Smashing & Lethal. That's plenty good with all his other tools.
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"Sometimes you have to roll the Hard Six." -- Adama
Teabagging Ms. Liberty - http://kk-comics.com/allmmproject/rsf21.jpg
I changed my build a bit as well, not sure how it will work w/o Touch of the Nictus in Twighlight Grasp though.
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you don't want end mod in electric fences, and especially don't want the chance proc, or else you'll be giving endurance to the mobs.
Not sure about the knockback set either in Bruiser. Ideally you want him to cause as much dmg as possible. Oh and the +rech isn't going to help either.
Also, if you're planning on the tankermind setup, you really need to slot Twilight Grasp with healing IOs, and put a couple in Fluffy (with rech/acc) too. You also want him to be a permanent feature (sub 240s rech)
http://www.scene-and-heard.com/cov/covsig.jpg
Here is how she is ATM... seems to work ok... but might need to tweak her a little more.
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I am currently wanting to respec my thugs/dark MM and play the "tankermind" role.
I havent found a decent build yet and after many many hours of frustration with mids (dont ask, I seem to be a retard with that proggie) I cannot seem to get the build I have been looking for.
I was attempting to get my M/R/A defense to the softcap (which i read about on here somewhere but cannot find it again) but it seems I cant make one with available sets. there are many sets listed in both mids and WW/BM that just do not exist. ARGG!!
Anyone have any min/max builds they would like to share? Once I have something to start with, I am sure I can tweak it to my style/preference.
TY!!