tough and weave for SR??

ive never done a SR toon ever , so saying that im guessing ill want to take tough and weave , but was wondering if thats nesessary or not? any help and thoughts would be great

Ive got both for the same reason's as mentioned above me. it allowed me to get IOs that were a little cheaper, instead of the uber expensive sets for +def. It also means i couldnt fit aid self in but i havent really needed it so YMMV

Although, it's never required, when building a toon for any kind of survivability purposes, I almost always take Tough/Weave. It makes it incredibly easy to softcap (as stated above) with the ability to stick a Steadfast Protection +3% in Tough and slot up weave for an added 7ish defense to all areas. Unless your build is extremely tight, I would definitely recommend it taking them.

I take both on my SRs. I also find the bit of resistance added by tough to be helpful to reduce the impact of landed hits before you go into you go into your ohshit hp loss scale resistance mode.

It is not needed. If you have desire to try, take it..

Tough is a good mule for the +3% defense. But it so easy to soft cap with sets and can be done for reasonable influence to accomplish.

If you could get to the softcap without weave then it's fine without
But tough adds that extra resists and picking it up just as a mule is a mistake I think

If you plan to dip into IO sets and have a sizable budget, I have a different perspective: the advantage of a high-end SR over the other softcap-capable sets (Invuln, WP, Shields) is that you can softcap without the Fighting pool much more easily.

For SR scrappers, I'd agree, not having Tough is more of a liability than a benefit in a high-end build. While Tough has a pretty high endurance cost for the amount of resistance it provides, scrappers have plenty of tools in the APPs to make endurance effectively bottomless while running Tough/Weave.

However, with brutes, it becomes a gray area. Fact is, brutes don't get any kind of endurance management tools from the PPPs, so avoiding Tough and Weave might make the difference between end sustainability and being endurance-limited.

While this is only an issue in prolonged fights, it's worth noting.

If you can give your brute sustainable endurance and Tough/Weave, that's the approach I'd take to softcapping, because the S/L resistance in Tough is very good to have, even if it isn't a lot. More likely for a brute, though, avoiding the Fighting pool may be an attractive alternative due to lower endurance consumption.