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Solo +4/x8 Vanguard, no insps no temps

Dechs Kaison

By Dechs Kaison,
Posted on: 2010-02-02 11:05 in Tankers

 

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Some time ago, I set myself a challenge of soloing 1 spawn of Vanguard Sword at +4/x8 with bosses, without inspirations, temp powers or click accolades.

I may try it again to see how I fare with a bigger spawn (this one seemed small, 4 minions 4 Lts 1 boss) but for now I'm pleased with the results.




 

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Have you failed 3rd mission? I found, it was impossible for me to keep Lady Grey alive solo with x8 spawns.

 

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Looks like you were an Invuln/DB. Did you do anything special like go for a Sweep (I see you went for the Vital combo at one point) ahead of time to help with their hits and debuffing? Also curious what defense levels you're at with your Invuln, as that could make a big difference, too. They don't seem to have tagged you much (unless those shots are not in the screenshots), so I would figure you have high defense at the least.

I'm tempted to try this on my Fire/Fire. I would be a little worried for him, as he doesn't have any mitigation, which usually helps when fighting Vanguard. I'm fairly certain, for instance, that my Shield/SS could handle them okay (though leading in with a Shield Charge might almost feel like cheating for this, heh).

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Originally Posted by NordBlast View Post
Have you failed 3rd mission? I found, it was impossible for me to keep Lady Grey alive solo with x8 spawns.
I haven't even got that far. In fact, until recently I could not reliably solo even 1 spawn at +4/x8; the Sword Sorcerer killed me every time. I'm now tempted to see how far I can get, without dying, under the same challenge rules.

If you can solo this arc on +4/x8 without dying, your characters are more powerful than mine can ever dream of being.

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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim View Post
Looks like you were an Invuln/DB. Did you do anything special like go for a Sweep (I see you went for the Vital combo at one point) ahead of time to help with their hits and debuffing? Also curious what defense levels you're at with your Invuln, as that could make a big difference, too. They don't seem to have tagged you much (unless those shots are not in the screenshots), so I would figure you have high defense at the least.

I'm tempted to try this on my Fire/Fire. I would be a little worried for him, as he doesn't have any mitigation, which usually helps when fighting Vanguard. I'm fairly certain, for instance, that my Shield/SS could handle them okay (though leading in with a Shield Charge might almost feel like cheating for this, heh).
I only spammed Attack Vitals and don't have the Sweep combo (I dropped it to take Arctic Mastery, which I didn't use in this fight). This tank is softcapped to all typed defenses except Psi and has capped S/L resistance.

I haven't tried this with a shield character yet but softcapped defense alone does not cut it (I tried it with my SR scrapper and was faceplanted within a dozen seconds of engaging). As far as surviving the spawn goes, there are two main threats: the minions and Lts debuff -Res with their attacks, and the Sorcerer has an extremely powerful damage aura that ticks for nearly 600 damage through my resists and drains endurance. If it got more than one or two ticks through while I was res debuffed by the rest of the spawn (typically landing well over 1k damage), I would die.

 

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Originally Posted by Laevateinn View Post
I haven't even got that far. In fact, until recently I could not reliably solo even 1 spawn at +4/x8; the Sword Sorcerer killed me every time. I'm now tempted to see how far I can get, without dying, under the same challenge rules.

If you can solo this arc on +4/x8 without dying, your characters are more powerful than mine can ever dream of being.
LoL... Nah, it wasn't +4/x8. I ran it with +0/x8/y/n on my fort and NW Lady Grey was dead in 10 seconds after ambush spawned.
Softcapped defense alone helps a lot. I heard that Vanguard is PITA for resistance based characters.

 

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Originally Posted by NordBlast View Post
Softcapped defense alone helps a lot. I heard that Vanguard is PITA for resistance based characters.
i can confirm that vanguard is a PITA for resistance based toons, my stone brute (who always runs in granite), and he cant handle x8 spawns very well if at all (i usually died a lot because they horribly debuffed my acc then turned to debuff my resist, and i couldnt heal fast enough at that point)

vanguard are weak against very high defense characters and mezzing characters (doms/trollers are the 2 best things to fight vanguard due to the mass mezzing)