Brute or Scrapper, you'd be trading in a good taunt for one that's not as good, from what I hear provoke isn't as good as brute taunt, but I understand you have a concept to work with here. Is it definitely going to be /SR? Cloak of fear from /DA would be sweet for fear without wasting moves.
Hmm, well, given that he's a cat, SR is kind of the standby... Dark Armor is not something I would have picked, but with a little more concept writing to bring him further into superhero-land it might work. On the other hand, I already have a claws/DA brute...
The Presence pool, IMO, is rather lacking even for an extra pool set. Two taunts to pick from to then get a ST fear that has a mag of 2 and a 30% chance at mag of 3. In other words, it fears minions and has a chance to fear a LT. The AoE fear is straight up mag 2.
Claws/sr might be tougher to fit in the Presence pool, but since you are going theme over min/max, it should be doable.
Yep, I rarely pay attention to minmaxing, and my favorite characters are the ones who aren't. With luck, Presence might get a boost someday. But... which taunt is less bad for me?
I would think claws would be a good pick to be able to fit in an extra pool. You can have a solid chain and not have to take a lot of the attacks. And if you are skipping travel and taking presense instead, you have the power picks there also. SR you have to take at least 8 of the powers if you skip elude. Not knowing the poem, but assuming the cat doesn't fly, teleport, or superspeed, you could use ninja run as your travel, and even still take combat jumping for the bonus. SR is fairly easy to softcap
During my brief time on champions I made my cat and had quite a good time playing the toon. Although if i did the same on coh id probably give it sj cause the lil thing can jump, sorry to ramble but its my first lil kitten.
I have a claws/regen, and I just respec'd, dropped one attack, and still have more than enough to always have something up, and thats with just reg IOs and a few SOs, haven't got sets rolling yet. You could easliy get a lot of recharge bonuses and get down to probably 3-4 attacks as all thats needed from the primary to have a solid chain.
I've always wanted to try the fear power from presense, especially on my dm/inv "vampire" concept, but couldn't get past having to give up the power selections to take it.
As to your last post, I find it essential to have a good concept to be able to play a toon, no matter how good it ends up being, if I can't get into playing it its just not as fun.
well to add to that, my cat would probably be a brute, cause waking me up all the time is evil, and bile spray would be fitting
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The poem actually describes him performing a "great leap," so Super Jumping was my pick for a travel pool to begin with. I'm not too worried about the attack chain, either - I'll probably just nix all the multiple-target attacks I otherwise would have taken, since it's so tough to get onto a big team on Triumph. Even so, I might skip travel, since Ninja Run has plenty of jumping involved in it. That's sounding like a good idea.|
Originally Posted by theheat
I would think claws would be a good pick to be able to fit in an extra pool. You can have a solid chain and not have to take a lot of the attacks. And if you are skipping travel and taking presense instead, you have the power picks there also. SR you have to take at least 8 of the powers if you skip elude. Not knowing the poem, but assuming the cat doesn't fly, teleport, or superspeed, you could use ninja run as your travel, and even still take combat jumping for the bonus. SR is fairly easy to softcap
During my brief time on champions I made my cat and had quite a good time playing the toon. Although if i did the same on coh id probably give it sj cause the lil thing can jump, sorry to ramble but its my first lil kitten. I have a claws/regen, and I just respec'd, dropped one attack, and still have more than enough to always have something up, and thats with just reg IOs and a few SOs, haven't got sets rolling yet. You could easliy get a lot of recharge bonuses and get down to probably 3-4 attacks as all thats needed from the primary to have a solid chain. I've always wanted to try the fear power from presense, especially on my dm/inv "vampire" concept, but couldn't get past having to give up the power selections to take it. As to your last post, I find it essential to have a good concept to be able to play a toon, no matter how good it ends up being, if I can't get into playing it its just not as fun. |
As for villains, I've made a nemesis for him as well - Macavity, another T. S. Eliot cat, who has an entire poem instead of just one stanza... anyway, so I'm kind of gathering that both of the tier-one powers in Presence are basically equally worthless?
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Yes. Pretty much all of Presence is worthless, as far as I'm concerned. The Fears are mediocre and have bad recharge times and high end costs. The Taunts are largely redundant thanks to native powers doing a substantially better job. I really do think that Rumpuscat would be more effectively done as a Claws/DA, especially if you imagine Death Shroud to be the random whirling of his claws rather than nether energies.
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anyway, so I'm kind of gathering that both of the tier-one powers in Presence are basically equally worthless?
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The Presence pool is weak, but if you're going that way take Provoke. Conceptually, does the Great Rumpus Cat pick on a single Peke or Pollicle?
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Originally Posted by Kosmos
The Presence pool is weak, but if you're going that way take Provoke. Conceptually, does the Great Rumpus Cat pick on a single Peke or Pollicle?
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When suddenly, up from a small basement flat, Why who should stalk out but THE GREAT RUMPUSCAT. His eyes were like fireballs fearfully blazing, He gave a great yawn, and his jaws were amazing; And when he looked out through the bars of the area, You never saw anything fiercer - or hairier. And what with the glare of his eyes and his yawning, The Pekes and the Pollicles quickly took warning. He looked at the sky and he gave a great leap, And they every last one of them scattered like sheep. And when the Police Dog returned to his beat, There wasn't a single one left in the street. |
If I write out his bio to make reference to yet another Eliot cat (Fireforefiddle, the Fiend of the Fell) I could explain his powers as demonic semi-possession, which makes the Dark Armor idea make way more sense. I think I might end up doing that, since my existing Claws/DA brute is on a different server.
Flashrains, Elliot never talks about Rumpus's Claws, just his Jaws... So why not Dark/Dark, Dark/SR, or Dark/Willpower? You could recolor the Dark effects, but the point I'd make is Dark/** has 'Touch of Fear' and **/Dark has 'Cloak of Fear'. So you could take them both, for extra Fear.
Adding some encounter with Firefrorefiddle in the flesh, and not just 'Gus' at the Theater might explain these fearsome powers.
Of course, Rumpus was always a fierce fighter... Perhaps he went out to Fight with Firefrorefiddle, and ended up eating/absorbing some of the fiend's power?
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I didn't have any characters with the Presence pool. I have so many characters that I finally said - I haven't tried that yet, I'm going to do it.
So my dark/shield scrapper has the first of the two Presence Pool Powers that is more like the scrapper Taunt (Challenge I think), the single target fear, and the AoE fear.
Since it is a dark/shield scrapper (the dark shield effect is really cool), the character already has a fear punch and a fear field.
That being said, my view of the fear effects of the Presence set is a bit warped.
Needless to say, when jumping or Sheild-Rushing into a group of foes (especially if they have been Taunted by someone else), there are a lot of enemies quivering in their boots.
I jump in and unleash Invoke Panic. After that it's fearing as part of the attack chain. I switch up targets if an particular enemy is causing trouble for the rest of the team. Between the fact that I'm beating on them, fearing them, and minor-taunting them -I can pretty much stop them from bothering whoever they were bothering.
I have a lot of fun with it when I play that character.
[Edit :: I'm not suggesting that a cat should carry a shield.]
Okay, so. The other day I realized that The Great Rumpuscat from T. S. Eliot's poem "The Awefull Battle of the Pekes and the Pollicles" is quite clearly a superhero. I rushed to get the name, managed to grab it on Triumph, and made him a claws/SR scrapper. Now, the problem: For concept reasons, he kind of needs the Presence pool (because it's just not The Great Rumpuscat if he can't have his enemies quaking in their boots). So, if I take this pool as the Scrapper he is, would that just be completely awful no matter how I do it, or is one of the two first-tier powers less bad a choice than the other? Or should I just hold my horses and reroll him as a Brute once GR comes out?